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I don’t think he’d have anymore of an idea what to do with a crane then he would a… ahh, never mind….
That's the next 'big' purchase after a crane.
I don’t think he’d have anymore of an idea what to do with a crane then he would a… ahh, never mind….
crane is my next big purchase, too useful, and cost to much to rent every time I need one
I pass on lots of jobs because the customer wont pay for a craneGet a few more ducks on the pond first.
Learn to solve the problems without one first, build your work & equipment base, then think a big specialist item.
Whats is craning a tree? We don't do that in the largest country on earth...Did a fun thing today. Ran our larger crane with a guy in the bucket who has never done crane work that big before. He was ready. He's spend plenty of time in the bucket, he's worked with our smaller crane, he's ran the smaller crane from the ground. It was his day and I was on the crane. He is a guy with a really laid-back, calm demeanor and he does good work.
But...our conversation after his first hour or so up there: (we took a little break)
Me: So what do you think about your first time moving some bigger stuff?
Him: I've never trusted someone so much in my entire life! It's f*cking scary but it's exhilarating! I love it!
Then some of our other guys pulled up on our job site from another crane job site. They asked him how he was doing and he said he just about sh*t his pants up there a couple of times but he was ready to get back up there.
That's the spirit! It might get scary but we've been doing this for a long time and we aren't going to let you get hurt.
Fun, fun day. I love craning trees. Literally half the time I spend on job sites is running cranes. The other half is doing grunt work to get the jobs done.
I'm not going to tell you not to buy a crane (or to buy one) but I will say that you should have a very good understanding of a number of other things before jumping in on a crane. Outside of all of the issues just related to running and loading the crane safely in the most general sense.....you should understand how different types of wood react to different situations, you should have an advanced knowledge of different types of rigging systems because if you know that...you probably have a pretty good idea of how things will move, load, twist, swing, balance or not balance, etc. You should be used to working in situations where you're under pressure to be perfect (many normal jobsites aren't that exact).zero
however, the guy "training" me is stoned out of his mind, or on Adderall any time I see him, demands money for everything, and doesnt show up when im paying him for stuff anyways
better off working without him, crane company does trees 3 days a week so I can ask the operator for anything I dont already know
im looking to get one similar to what we are renting, 45 ton, 115ft boom tip height without jib, the 50 (55?) ton they have has around 150ft boom tip without job, the load chart is really good, and the crane is rather small and will fit in most places my bucket truck wontI'm not going to tell you not to buy a crane (or to buy one) but I will say that you should have a very good understanding of a number of other things before jumping in on a crane. Outside of all of the issues just related to running and loading the crane safely in the most general sense.....you should understand how different types of wood react to different situations, you should have an advanced knowledge of different types of rigging systems because if you know that...you probably have a pretty good idea of how things will move, load, twist, swing, balance or not balance, etc. You should be used to working in situations where you're under pressure to be perfect (many normal jobsites aren't that exact).
You should also look into the math. Is it worth actually buying something like that? For us, our smaller crane is much more useful than our big crane. It cost a lot less too. How much will you use a bigger crane? Maybe a bunch, maybe not. It doesn't work on many jobsites because of the footprint it requires to set up and use. You need a large spot for the crane, possibly a spot for a bucket, possibly a spot for a chipper and truck and then also a landing area to set material down. How often will you get all of that? My experience in my area is that we will get that on less than 20% of all jobsites and many of the ones in that 20% don't require a crane that big.
So we have the bigger crane and it's nice when it works but if you're just starting out...I just feel like there are better things to spend your money on. Buy a super sweet chipper or a crawler boom or something that will earn money every day. Just my two cents here.
I don't know man. Maybe you call it something else but I've been doing this for my whole adult life and when I'm getting ready to crane something out....I call it craning something out (or picking the individual sections)Whats is craning a tree? We don't do that in the largest country on earth...
That sounds like a nice crane but I would go back to the math. Maybe it works for you, maybe not. Do you need something that big? Probably not. How big are you planning on picking? I'd rather go smaller than bigger...because it means I need a smaller landing area and it's a lighter load. You don't need the biggest picks. I always say at the beginning of a crane job "Alright guys...let's have the most boring crane day ever. Nothing exciting today!"im looking to get one similar to what we are renting, 45 ton, 115ft boom tip height without jib, the 50 (55?) ton they have has around 150ft boom tip without job, the load chart is really good, and the crane is rather small and will fit in most places my bucket truck wont
working limit, due to the risks involved with tree work im going to try and stay under 50% of what the crane is "good for"That sounds like a nice crane but I would go back to the math. Maybe it works for you, maybe not. Do you need something that big? Probably not. How big are you planning on picking? I'd rather go smaller than bigger...because it means I need a smaller landing area and it's a lighter load. You don't need the biggest picks. I always say at the beginning of a crane job "Alright guys...let's have the most boring crane day ever. Nothing exciting today!"
on a better note, picked up a new foot ascender, ART positioner 2 swivel, small ISC block and a brand new 500i todayView attachment 998097
Pretty much a perfect week as things go here. Everything tucked back away safely and having earned it’s money.
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gonna use it on the crane job, will be getting a 28" light bar (sugi or tsumura) and a 36", saw will live with the 28 and get the 36 once/twice a month for big stuff, super excited to run it, played with the positioner today it hates sap but super nice otherwise, spliced up an ultra sling for the ISC block and load tested today, small ~6ft sling but the block can come out and go on a piece of bull rope if I need a bigger sling, im thinking about picking up a second one as im moving towards blocks (bend radius, midline attachable and no friction), second one will probably be the next size up so whenever I get a larger (5/8") bull rope I can use that in a block, although I will be getting another 1/2" rigging line (probably arbormaster since my local shop sells it), small portawrap is probably soon to come, my homemade one is awesome but I want a smaller light one (since im not using 3/4" rope in it and towards the end of the day when its 100+ degrees wrestling with the "XL" porty is a pain)Now that's good, high return equipment that will pay for itself within a day or two & keep giving, with low overheads, for the next five-ten years. If you climbing big or even processing high volumes on the ground, the 500 will save your body plenty in the long term.
how do you like yours? ive heard the antivibe is too soft, and it does feel that way, westcoast saw has a stiffer antivibe kit for sale that I might order, along with the 4 point west coast dogs and a wrap handle + maxflowthe 500 will save your body plenty in the long term.
ive heard your trees are like concrete?in our conditions wouldn't run more than a 25" on them
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