John is surprisingly fast in timed cuts, given comparative equipment. Anytime that Blotax, he and I have cut using the same saw, it's always first, second and third, respectively. I'd say that relatively speaking, John's just about midway between Robert and myself as far as skill goes in this regard. Given that Robert is excellent and I more or less suck, maybe I'm not giving John enough credit. Perhaps I should race Mark sometime so he would feel better about his abilities. I did cut a 2.1 second time against Jon Rupley's 1.9 with the Rotax in Placerville last year, which says that there's hope anyway.