Falling pics 11/25/09
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That might save a lot of walking Sam.
Yeah, it might make it a lot easier to sneak around delimbers and shovels.
I get sick of wearing my corks out walking down the damn road!
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I always try to have an ATV on site for cutting, I can't stand when people use mine or their skidder as golf carts to transport cutters, saws and gas around. I start skidders to pull logs and that is it. ATV's or in this case snow machines were made for moving humans around, skidders for logs. I know people that start the skidder drive into the woods, cut 3 trees, skid 3 trees, cut 3 trees and skid 3 trees, therefore they are either idling a skidder all day for half A$$ production or they are starting and stopping the engine all day long and walking back and forth all day,................... weird stuff.
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Ya. I'm thinking about the 17 Hornady Hornet. For fox and lynx. Coyote have tougher hides.
Plank, those pecker pole stumps gotta go. What's with the dented up tin lid? Not smart! !!! Get a new hat.
I can show you the tombstones of a bunch of guys I cut timber with that got killed by getting hit on the head while cutting timber.
I don't know your pay structure, but a good job leads to more $$$ than slashing does. Your falling looks pretty good but low stumps are important .
Plank, those pecker pole stumps gotta go. What's with the dented up tin lid? Not smart! !!! Get a new hat.
I can show you the tombstones of a bunch of guys I cut timber with that got killed by getting hit on the head while cutting timber.
I don't know your pay structure, but a good job leads to more $$$ than slashing does. Your falling looks pretty good but low stumps are important .
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Sam, that's a good looking open air crew bus :msp_wink: sitting on the bars won't b too comfortable. .
Maybe if the bars are pointed the other way. I've shredded a couple snogo seats with sharp chins and sharp corks
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Maybe if the bars are pointed the other way. I've shredded a couple snogo seats with sharp chins and sharp corks
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Every year the whole clan goes christmas tree hunting, one year it snowed a bunch real early so the usual spots had 4-5 feet of snow, so we took snowmobiles. On the way up we passed a late 60's bronco, late 60's scout, and a jeep with a v-8, all had huge tires and roll cages the usual redneck stuff. 4-5 hours later were on our way back its dark its snowing hard and all three rigs are stuck in the ditches each one about 100 yards from each other and the snow is over the hood of two of em.
Long story short we broke a rope or two but pulled the bronco out with a 700 polaris rmk, he's the only one with a winch and said adieu. We did take pictures but my folks got them.
Long story short we broke a rope or two but pulled the bronco out with a 700 polaris rmk, he's the only one with a winch and said adieu. We did take pictures but my folks got them.
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Hey Plankton, nice snaghunting!
As to fibre pulling-don´t be afraid of boring some of the heartwood, leaving two hingestraps on sides. A well-grown hardwoods of such dimensions usualy have enought tensile and even yield strenght in pressure to be able to hold most of the tree´s weight just on 3/4" wide hingestrap. Without a shade of crushing the wood. And about 1/4" (or even narrower in some species) strap across the dia. of a 30" hardwood can frequently easily withstands ALL the weight of the tree in pull along the grain. (The strenght of the wood of hardwoods in pull along the grain is almost always 1,5-2,5 times the strenght in pressure along the grain, depending on tree species, soil condition, part of the year... Mainly on them.)
So when the tree goes over, the front part of the hingewood don´t crush under the pressure as it does in softwood, so as the tree goes over more, the tension applied on the back of the hinge rises rapidly and concentrates mainly in thin portion of wood just on the back of the hingestrap. And because the wood withstands soo much in pull, it breaks not almost "all in one" as in "typical" softwoods, but breaks gradualy in thin layers-which leads to consecutive fibre pulling just before the grain breaks.
So means to weaken the hinge to a level where the hinge´s crossection yield and tensile strenght are somehow less than possible pressure and pull loads from the mass of the tree are welcome. It´s not a GOL or sissiness, it´s just a little of applied basics of Material science.
Maybe the first paragraph is too "scientific" for immediate orientation in what´s to be said, so for simplification:
In most hardwoods, the usual hinge, as can be easily chased all-day long, is too massive and capable of withstanding much higher forces, than those applicable by the tree´s own falling mass. Hence the fibrepulling comes from and making the hinge smaller (by boring the heart) prevents it.
As to fibre pulling-don´t be afraid of boring some of the heartwood, leaving two hingestraps on sides. A well-grown hardwoods of such dimensions usualy have enought tensile and even yield strenght in pressure to be able to hold most of the tree´s weight just on 3/4" wide hingestrap. Without a shade of crushing the wood. And about 1/4" (or even narrower in some species) strap across the dia. of a 30" hardwood can frequently easily withstands ALL the weight of the tree in pull along the grain. (The strenght of the wood of hardwoods in pull along the grain is almost always 1,5-2,5 times the strenght in pressure along the grain, depending on tree species, soil condition, part of the year... Mainly on them.)
So when the tree goes over, the front part of the hingewood don´t crush under the pressure as it does in softwood, so as the tree goes over more, the tension applied on the back of the hinge rises rapidly and concentrates mainly in thin portion of wood just on the back of the hingestrap. And because the wood withstands soo much in pull, it breaks not almost "all in one" as in "typical" softwoods, but breaks gradualy in thin layers-which leads to consecutive fibre pulling just before the grain breaks.
So means to weaken the hinge to a level where the hinge´s crossection yield and tensile strenght are somehow less than possible pressure and pull loads from the mass of the tree are welcome. It´s not a GOL or sissiness, it´s just a little of applied basics of Material science.
Maybe the first paragraph is too "scientific" for immediate orientation in what´s to be said, so for simplification:
In most hardwoods, the usual hinge, as can be easily chased all-day long, is too massive and capable of withstanding much higher forces, than those applicable by the tree´s own falling mass. Hence the fibrepulling comes from and making the hinge smaller (by boring the heart) prevents it.
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That looks pretty sweet pard
Looks like winter is here for real tommorow. You'll have to swing by some weekend and rip around in the field. After a drop of scotch of course.
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I think the warmest it got today was 4 below. 22 below this morning. So I guess it been winter for aboutt a month now. Thats how long its been since it was above freezing. It's pretty great. Fur is pretty great. Truck runs a lot better at 20 below than it does above.
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But of course :msp_smile:
37 and foggy here this morning. Winter has arrived.
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-25 this morning. Hey Samlock ; what's your temp this morning? ?
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32 here not that bad. Supposed to get snow starting yesterday and through this afternoon... but there isn't any yet so I'll believe itwhen I see it!
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I don't know, Glen. Around 10F, I guess. I had the block heater on, but it got warmer during the day. I had a rubber boots and wet snow under the collar day.
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It warmed up and is now snowing. Yuk.
-4 this morning.
-4 this morning.
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32 this mornin with a lil left over snow on the ground. Started snowin again at noon.
Isn't anybody falling? Or are we sitting around with coffee cups and watching thermometers? I guess I'll have to go see if I can get some of the limb locked trees to actually hit the ground just so there'll be something to discuss other than temperatures. And that is getting desperate!:msp_biggrin:
