Help identifying stihl 460 or 440 ?

[thinktwicez71]

A farmer that I do milk pickup at has a few saws that need work , one he said was a stihl 460 . Said it's missing parts but would take $150 for it . I asked where it was and he brought me to a storage spot in his barn and upon looking at it I didn't think it looked bad other than the missing parts . I took a few pictures and left agreeing I would come back tommorow with the $ to get it . I was looking at the pictures at the plant and I'm not sure what saw it is now and need help to determine if it's a 440 or a 460 like he thought . The handle sticker says 440 , the top cover says 460 , and the air filter cover appears to be from a 440 . I called him and talked to him about it and he said he remembers the tank being broken on his 440 and his farm hand swapped the tank off this saw and put it on the 440 .

Is there any definite ways of knowing which saw this is other than tearing it apart and measuring the piston diameter ? ? Will the top of the cylinder # be different for a 440 vs a 460 ? Sorry for the long post but I'm very interested in it if it's a 460 for the price .

 

[thinktwicez71]

This is the saw

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[lone wolf]

You could take the muffler off and measure the bore diam.

 

[psuiewalsh]

https://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/quick-ms440-ms460-044-046-crankcase-id-pics.286267/

 

[lone wolf]

440 50 mm bore. 460 52 mm bore

 

[thinktwicez71]

How difficult would it be to measure the cylinder diameter through the small muffler port with the muffler removed . ?

 

[lone wolf]

How difficult would it be to measure the cylinder diameter through the small muffler port with the muffler removed . ?

How difficult would it be to measure the cylinder diameter through the small muffler port with the muffler removed . ?

few minutes.

 

[psuiewalsh]

Easy enough with a Popsicle stick .

 

[lone wolf]

Easy enough with a Popsicle stick .

If thats all you got but geez!

 

[Deleted member 117362]

How difficult would it be to measure the cylinder diameter through the small muffler port with the muffler removed . ?

Do you have a caliper? If not use a small straw, pencil, screwdriver and insert on top of piston, mark and measure it.

 

[thinktwicez71]

I don't know how much faith I would put in the double dash thing , all the eBay 460 says have the double dash on the crankcase and so do the 440 ones , so that doesn't really narrow it down

 

[lone wolf]

I don't know how much faith I would put in the double dash thing , all the eBay 460 says have the double dash on the crankcase and so do the 440 ones , so that doesn't really narrow it down

It would be done already!

 

[cuinrearview]

The cases are different above the oil fill. The area is blocked by the wrap handle in both of your pics of that side.

 

[thinktwicez71]

Do you have a caliper? If not use a small straw, pencil, screwdriver and insert on top of piston, mark and measure it.

Man I must be tired cause I was thinking how the hell am I gonna measure left and right in there , what a dumbass ......straight through .......now I gotcha .....sorry long day

 

[thinktwicez71]

It would be done already!

I'm sorry forgive me but I don't understand what you mean here

 

[lone wolf]

I'm sorry forgive me but I don't understand what you mean here

Just take it apart and you would know by now it only takes a few minutes.

 

[thinktwicez71]

Yeah that's prolly what I'll do thanks

 

[lone wolf]

Yeah that's prolly what I'll do thanks

 

[stihl86]

440 or 460, looking at the cylinder and piston should be the first place you start anyway. The saw looks like it needs hundreds of dollars worth of parts and as many hrs of labor.

 

[thinktwicez71]

I enjoy saw projects , I figured if I can repair it and have 200 or less in it in parts I would do it , even if it's good shape oem used

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