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Cs-500p. From what I've been told the 500 and 490 are the same saw. The handle bar and clutch bell is the only difference.
Husqvarna 550xp vs echo cs490
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I see the Dolmar 421 as one of the ideal recomendations sofar for this amount of wood! Built like a pro saw, made for the homeowner. For me this ~40cc class is about the best a homeowner can get!
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Some misinformation in this thread needs to be cleared up, the current Echo CS-490 and CS-500P were based off the Shindaiwa 446s which came out pre-merger back around 2007. It was a 46cc that was like all Shindaiwa saws were, rock solid, lightweight and quality built, but not exactly a screamer. I owned a 446s that I ported myself, turned it into a downright impressive machine. A 50cc Shindaiwa version called a 452s was in the works but never got released in the US before the 2009 merge with Echo. At the time, Shindaiwa had a chainsaw model 490, which was an updated version of their 488 and had nothing in common with the 446s or the current Echo CS-500P/CS-490. There was a couple years gap before Echo reintroduced the series as the 50cc CS-500P in 2011 and now the reduced cost CS-490. With the recent re-introduction of Shindaiwa branded chainsaws, the Echo CS-490 can be found (colored red and branded for Shindaiwa) in the Shindaiwa lineup as a CS-491.
Regarding the CS-490 vs CS-500P, I haven't gone over the IPL's in detail but other than the obvious and previously mentioned differences (handle, stock bar/chain), they do share the same piston & cylinder. They come with a very restrictive (but very quiet) muffler, so considerable gains can be had with a simple muffler mod.
Regarding the CS-490 vs CS-500P, I haven't gone over the IPL's in detail but other than the obvious and previously mentioned differences (handle, stock bar/chain), they do share the same piston & cylinder. They come with a very restrictive (but very quiet) muffler, so considerable gains can be had with a simple muffler mod.
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Whats your assessment of that 490 ? I'm looking real hard at one. I intend to use it for limbing and 12" and under bucking.I intend to run it with a 16" bar.
I was also considering a dolmar ps421 and echo cs 400 .I realize they're not the same cc but I'm tryinv to keep the weight down
Whats your assessment of that 490 ? I'm looking real hard at one. I intend to use it for limbing and 12" and under bucking.I intend to run it with a 16" bar.
I was also considering a dolmar ps421 and echo cs 400 .I realize they're not the same cc but I'm tryinv to keep the weight down
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Local dealer also told me I needed a Jonsered 2152$$$$ he then recomended an efco mt 4400 I've not seen anything about efco on this site .
I note you choose the word merger while if I recall correctly purchased or bought seems more common around here. Echo is really the name of the product in this area but does merger mean company a gets stock in company b? Where sell/bought means they get money and have to pay capital gains taxes if they made a profit? Of course there is a combination possibility and secrecy if they are not publicly traded.
I switched mine over to 3/8 18 inch bar it comes with .325 it had a 20 inch bar on it and it cut fine I cut mostly 14 inch and larger hardwood and just wanted my bar and pitch the same with my other saws it's very quiet stock and plugged up once I pulled the limiters and the tube in the muffler and cut the deflector back and retuned it really woke up I use this saw the most after my neighbor tried it he bought one need to weigh it but its light for a 50cc that I've used.
Owning both saw I'd get the CS400 muff modd and tune it, with the lopro chain it cuts real close to the CS500 I have and the CS400 is going to be the lightest, ready to cut they weigh 13# even, the CS500p weighs 14 1/2# and I haven't weighed the Dolmar 421 but have heard they are heavy. Steve
The 490's I have looked over have rim drive Drums just like the 500.
woodbutcher56
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Thanks for the advice mountainlake!!!
Is the 400 in the video stock or modded?
Is the 400 in the video stock or modded?
chevyforlife21
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Anyone know what chain comes stock on the 550xp? As in home owner or pro chain?
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woodbutcher56
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id you use echo parts for that conversion??
I used a small spline 3/8 stihl rim from my stihl dealer and a small mount husky total bar oils great I don't know which stihl saw maybe someone here knows.
chevyforlife21
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Would you buy both eventually?
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I have a MM'ed CS400 and a 421. The 421 will send a 400 home and probably take its bigger brother along too. I really like my Echo's, but they're not in the same playground as the little Dolmar. The Dolmar is listed as 11 oz. heavier than the CS-400 by the way.
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