Husqvarna 61 Rancher, Older.

[weimedog]

Actually, I believe you are the person who was telling me about the carbs in the thread about my saw. Now that I think about it I do remember you saying something about a mid 80's change over. I still have the smaller HS163 carb on my 266 top end and it seems to do just fine for me.

This one's carb has the body from the 272's but had to modify the aluminum "horn" to handle the 272's cap screws. I'd like the low top look and feel on those older ones. I think I remember your posting on the 266...is a 266 48 or 50mm? I have a closed port 268 top end waiting for a good piston & trash can 61 or later low top Husqvarna...:eek2: Maybe a old style J-red 630 bottom end will do the trick.

So Saw Troll..What model Husqvarna's had that low top cover? Any with the later style single coil Ignition?

 

[Roanoker494]

This one's carb has the body from the 272's but had to modify the aluminum "horn" to handle the 272's cap screws. I'd like the low top look and feel on those older ones. I think I remember your posting on the 266...is a 266 48 or 50mm? I have a closed port 268 top end waiting for a good piston & trash can 61 or later low top Husqvarna...:eek2: Maybe a old style J-red 630 bottom end will do the trick.

So Saw Troll..What model Husqvarna's had that low top cover? Any with the later style single coil Ignition?

266xp was a closed port 50mm, not sure on the SE models.

 

[SawTroll]

I couple of post from a few months back;

OK, I did some research on this. My only goof up was that the 66's did use the early twin coil set up.

The IPL's show the model run from 87-91. They do use the same open port cylinder as on the non-XP 268's. There are a few different part numbers involved. Early 66 IPL's show #503448271, and the later IPL shows #503611071, which is the same as on the 268 IPL. Doesn't really matter, as all of them supercede up to the same number, 544222902.

On the intake side, they use the same intake block, #501806602, as the 268 and 272. So, any of the 268 and 272 closed port cylinders are a straight bolt on affair.

Price wise, OEM P&C sets list out at $237 for the open port 66/268, and $244 for a 272 set. Talk about a no-brainer, huh?

I got curious, so I looked up a few IPLs, to find out which carbs were used on the different models in that "family" of saws.

The 66 was simple, it used the HS224A from 1987-1991.

The only other one that used the same carb at any point was the late production 266SE and the 266XP (1985-1993), minus 1987 (HS224B) and 1988 (HS224C). Before 1985, the 266SE used the HS163A. That carb change may have something to do with the fact that the power and rpm specs changed on that model.......

The 61 used the same 163A all the way up to 1991, when it changed to the HS254A (not used by any of the other models).

No version of the 268 (including the late production open port one) or the 272xp "shared" carbs with the models mentioned above. The 268XP changed from HS234A/B in 1987 and 1989 to HS260A in 1990. All later 268 IPLs show the same HS260A, as do all 272XP IPLs. (the last ones are from 1997).

The years here relate to the dating of the IPLs, and does not say exactly when a change was made.

I have no idea what the difference between the different carb models is, but assume that different venturi/capacity is part of the picture......

 

[tantoy]

Just pictures

 

[SawTroll]

266xp was a closed port 50mm, not sure on the SE models. .....

I am pretty sure they all were closed ports, but not 100%.

In fact I am not an expert on those saws at all, I just have "collected" a bit of info on them. :msp_smile:

 

[bama]

I am pretty sure they all were closed ports, but not 100%.

In fact I am not an expert on those saws at all, I just have "collected" a bit of info on them. :msp_smile:

Niko, your "collection" of information is fairly extensive and far surpasses anything I hope to achieve in my lifetime.:msp_biggrin:

 

[andrethegiant70]

Just pictures

I'd have called that one without the brake a 162... note the hold down screw in the middle of the top cover. The 61 has nothing on a 162, so no worries.

 

[SawTroll]

I'd have called that one without the brake a 162... note the hold down screw in the middle of the top cover. The 61 has nothing on a 162, so no worries.

"Frankensaws" are common in that "family"......:msp_wink:

 

[RiverRat2]

Well guess what I just found in the Husky section of the shop,,,

"Frankensaws" are common in that "family"......:msp_wink:

An old 272 that has a ton of compression (195 PSI) that need s a coil and a complete 266 with an extra jug/piston/intake/carb, & muffler

I may just wake that 61 up a bit!!!!! :msp_wink:

 

[STIHL880]

Okay, Fixed it, Here are some pictures of this beast, Got it started last night, the thing runs like a champ even after my buddy telling me it's had like 1000+ hours on it, and four owners, Still need to rebuild and clean it though.

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[STIHL880]

Well, Going to the chainsaw shop to buy a bar and chain tomorrow, can anyone tell me what size chain and bar i should use? i have no idea about husky's,
Thanks again.

 

[bama]

I run 3/8 .058 but that is because I had it on the first saws when I started running them. I also found some real nice "closeout" bars at Baileys because of the .058 gauge. For ease of use, I would use whatever gauge/pitch that you have and just try to find a bar that maybe has the same drivers as your other saws. I am not a Stihl guy, so maybe it doesn't work that way. All of my 16" chains can go on any saw I have as well as the 18", 20", 24" etc. I like it that way.

 

[SawTroll]

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I tried to attach a WS manual from 1988, but the file is too large (over 20mb)....

I found a link to that manual. It still is a large file, so it may take some time to open.

61, 266, 66, 268 WS manual 1988

Edit; The oil adjuster can be seen from page 49 and on.

 

[procarbine2k1]

I liked the way mine handled with a 20" bar, full chisel. Worked well for me anyway...

 

[SawTroll]

More on the oiler in this manual from 1982 (266se):

OM 266SE 1982.

The 1997 one shows the same, but I don't have that one in English.

 

[MJC]

To resurrect an old thread . . . I've got a 61 that I'd like to convert from single piece clutch drum sprocket to a rim sprocket.
(For the record, I've been running a 3/8 22" bar and it runs circles around my 550 xp with a 20" bar cutting oak and cherry. Dunno if that means my 550 needs help or if its even a fair comparison, but I'm happy with it.) Anyway, I've found that one clutch drum I found (Oregon Drum Rim Sprocket 26831) is not for "older" 61 models. Is mine "older"? It is a silver tag black top with a metal chain brake handle. Tag says "6334417 Electrolux Motor AB Sweden." So an '86 model. Is that "older" or does "older mean ones not made in Sweden? Any help would be appreciated.

 

[bama]

To resurrect an old thread . . . I've got a 61 that I'd like to convert from single piece clutch drum sprocket to a rim sprocket.
(For the record, I've been running a 3/8 22" bar and it runs circles around my 550 xp with a 20" bar cutting oak and cherry. Dunno if that means my 550 needs help or if its even a fair comparison, but I'm happy with it.) Anyway, I've found that one clutch drum I found (Oregon Drum Rim Sprocket 26831) is not for "older" 61 models. Is mine "older"? It is a silver tag black top with a metal chain brake handle. Tag says "6334417 Electrolux Motor AB Sweden." So an '86 model. Is that "older" or does "older mean ones not made in Sweden? Any help would be appreciated.

It has been awhile since I worked on or used my 61, but I did convert it to a rim sprocket. Mine was a white top, so pretty old. I know you can get it, but sadly, I don't remember what the number was. Sorry

 

[Ronie]

To resurrect an old thread . . . I've got a 61 that I'd like to convert from single piece clutch drum sprocket to a rim sprocket.
(For the record, I've been running a 3/8 22" bar and it runs circles around my 550 xp with a 20" bar cutting oak and cherry. Dunno if that means my 550 needs help or if its even a fair comparison, but I'm happy with it.) Anyway, I've found that one clutch drum I found (Oregon Drum Rim Sprocket 26831) is not for "older" 61 models. Is mine "older"? It is a silver tag black top with a metal chain brake handle. Tag says "6334417 Electrolux Motor AB Sweden." So an '86 model. Is that "older" or does "older mean ones not made in Sweden? Any help would be appreciated.

It looks like 80-02 all fit I think older means course threaded clutch and two piece ignition.

 

[MJC]

It looks like 80-02 all fit I think older means course threaded clutch and two piece ignition.
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Fantastic, Ronie! Thank you! I'll get one and let you know how it goes.

 

[MJC]

'been researching. As far as sprockets are concerned, a "late model" 61 is one with a s/n later than 0510572. The Oregon part number for the correct rim sprocket for the "late model" 61 is #26831. (Thank you, Grande Dog, in post entitled "Checking husky 61 serial #") This corresponds to the OEM #5037014-01, also a rim sprocket. Other saws with the same sprocket are the 266 (after 051000), 268 (after 051000), or 272 (after 051000).

Ronie, the screen shot you sent me is of the the one-piece type sprocket drum (not rim) #503650901 (listing says replaces part #501514001). This seems to go to the "early model," (tho I may live to eat my words once I get a sprocket and try it out.)

According to my research, anyone with an "Early" 61 (s/n before 0510572) 66, 162, 266 (before 0510000), 268 (before 0510000), or 272 (before 0510000) should look for OEM part #501-8316-01,#501-6741-01,#501-5140-01, or Oregon part #102469. The Oregon part is a rim type sprocket, but the Husqvarna numbers seem to be the one piece type, and, as stated above, #501-5140-01 has been replaced by #503650901

All the information here I got from an Oregon Sprocket Guide which cross references OEM with Oregon with saw model backwards and forwards. It seems pretty comprehensive. See link below. https://www.outdoorking.com/pages/Oregon/Oregon sprocket reference.pdf