...if you are a farmer you gotta see this

[CrappieKeith]

The EPA says particles 10 micrometers in diameter present health problems, so they are coming to the rescue. Farmers and ranchers face what some are calling an impossible hurdle. They must adjust control of particulate matter to levels two times more stringent than current requirements. Several Senators have sent the head of the EPA, Lisa Jackson, a letter while Chuck Grassly (R-Iowa) asked her to use "commonsense" with regard to the new rules on dust. Considering that corn must be dry when harvested there is nothing farmers will be able to do to control dust. In fact, the nation's heartland will sweat bullets when driving down gravel roads or when livestock kicks up dust. Then there's the weather. Fines that come with non-compliance will make our farmers and ranchers less competitive and cost jobs.

At least they can breathe easier as they tip toe around their property.


Can you believe what the EPA is trying to do?????

 

[HOGBEAR]

The epa will be the death of all of us. And the others aint far behind.

 

[Phil_Marino]

obummer and company intend to destroy this country. They are making no secret about it.
Nothing towards that end will surprise me.

This is not a political forum. Let's stay on topic.

Phil

 

[fubar2]

This is not a political forum. Let's stay on topic.

Phil

He is as "on topic" as he could possibly be.

 

[olyman]

He is as "on topic" as he could possibly be.

wonder if hes a oblow supporter????

 

[hanniedog]

It is amazing just how stupid so many highly educated people can be. Virtually every activity on a farm makes dust it is just part of how mother nature works.

 

[Walt41]

Just think they our using OUR money to regulate us, what's next? A lawsuit against mother nature?

 

[Alan Smith]

farmers

Just think they our using OUR money to regulate us, what's next? A lawsuit against mother nature?

yes first coal then the wood then no food because the farmers are gone

 

[Wood Doctor]

Keith, et al, if you were to conduct a simple study to determine how many employees of the EPA have a farmer or rancher background, you would understand the ignorance. I imagine very few do or have ever even studied agriculture in school.

Thus they have no idea what the farmer can control. The EPA would probably suggest that all farming equipment be shut down during the harvest season and that we import more of our food from the Chinese or the starving Russians to help control domestic crop dust levels.

:bang:

 

[dingeryote]

This isn't new.

It started over a year ago when Soetoros Earth first globalists took the reins of the EPA.

Dust and a list of other unavoidable realitys were announced as pending regulatory action for the EPA and other agencys(FDA,HHS,DHS), in a Hell bent blitzkrieg assault on us earth destroying evil Farmers.

"Source point emissions" was broadened to include spray applicator nozzles that were to be regulated and subject to inspection. Every tip on every spray rig owned and operated by a Lisc. applicator.

Mud puddles in a field became "Regulated bodies of water" subject to regulation and documentation of applicable label restrictions.

Even "Odor" worked it's way into the mess.

There ain't enough Organic no till Hippies on the planet to feed 1/10 of the population of Delaware, and even the Amish plows pulled by percherons will be regulated like a John Deere.

Dadgum Ag equipment emissions are on the list, and spilled Milk was put in the same category, as spilled Petrolium products as a contaminant.

There's even more nonsense coming from the FDA, and moving Hay is now regulated by the DHS because of Terrorist threats to the food supply. LOL!!
Permits required to transport hay!

Either that idiot Baruk and his Posse of Ecomorons gets the boot real soon, or you guys will be getting a lot thinner.

Funny how the MSM dosn't mention this sort of thing.
It's just about daily news for guys having to deal with the Socialists bootheels, and headlines in every edition of farm Bureau news.

Stay safe!
Dingeryote

 

[dingeryote]

Keith, et al, if you were to conduct a simple study to determine how many employees of the EPA have a farmer or rancher background, you would understand the ignorance. I imagine very few do or have ever even studied agriculture in school.

Thus they have no idea what the farmer can control. The EPA would probably suggest that all farming equipment be shut down during the harvest season and that we import more of our food from the Chinese or the starving Russians to help control domestic crop dust levels.

:bang:

Doc.
It ain't innocent ignorance.
Not one bit.

I wish it was. That can be fixed pleasantly.

Stay safe!
Dingeryote

 

[Kingsley]

I know what the EPA is capable of. I'm a diesel truck salesman for a "living". Sometimes it feels like I'm a diesel truck salesman for a "starving".

Trucks have gone up $20,000 dollars in the last three years. The EPA better stay the heck away from wood heat. We'll have $30,000 pot belly stoves!

 

[Tesen]

I know what the EPA is capable of. I'm a diesel truck salesman for a "living". Sometimes it feels like I'm a diesel truck salesman for a "starving".

Trucks have gone up $20,000 dollars in the last three years. The EPA better stay the heck away from wood heat. We'll have $30,000 pot belly stoves!

It is a sad state of affairs, we have let politics become extremists (left or right). Vote them all out, R or D! Encourage the moderates to run (if we can find any anymore... or very least identify them).

:censored: the EPA, if they come after wood heat, grrrr... I'll fire up my chainsaw and their :censored:.

Tes

 

[WoodChuck'r]

Is this really for real??

I guess I could understand burning tires, oil, and car emissions, but dust from moving the herd or from harvesting corn??

To me that's just outta control - are there not better things for the EPA to do??

 

[fubar2]

wonder if hes a oblow supporter????

Oly I didn't ignore you. I just didn't want to give Phil more reason to snivel and whine. Now that this thread has tracked in that direction on it own I will say, yes I do believe that we have another Hussein worshiper/bunghole buddy on our hands. There is a fool born every minute, this proves it.

 

[Circle B MN]

How can you ding a farmer for dust from a tractor or plowing, when there are hundreds of thousands of miles of unpaved roads in the US..? Would it save the Spotted WingNut if we were to pave all the roads with some nice fresh oil based tar...?

 

[Walt41]

I'm guessing the regulators like to hold these meetings over lunch or dinner that they assume would be totally unaffected by their actions.

 

[Wood Doctor]

How can you ding a farmer for dust from a tractor or plowing, when there are hundreds of thousands of miles of unpaved roads in the US..? Would it save the Spotted WingNut if we were to pave all the roads with some nice fresh oil based tar...?

+1. Hey, I also thought of something else. We could pave all the fields with asphalt and that would knock out even more dust in the air to satisfy the EPA requirements. We could all then breathe better and next proceed to die of starvation.

 

[slowp]

Oly I didn't ignore you. I just didn't want to give Phil more reason to snivel and whine. Now that this thread has tracked in that direction on it own I will say, yes I do believe that we have another Hussein worshiper/bunghole buddy on our hands. There is a fool born every minute, this proves it.

Not political?

Back ON TOPIC, a suggestion. Instead of bashing the current administration and insulting people like me, why don't you try to come up with a positive, workable way to deal with it.

As one of the "bureaucrats" I can tell you that I don't appreciate being yelled at and called names, etc. when I'm trying to enforce something that I don't know is not workable.

It is much better to work together, and explain why something will not work. Then waivers and eventually changes in the rules can start to happen.

I did not have a logging background. But I've managed to learn a lot from working with REASONABLE and CALM guys who took time to CALMLY explain the problems. Then we discuss solutions and can come up with alternatives.

Now, can you do that?

 

[fubar2]

Not political?

Back ON TOPIC, a suggestion. Instead of bashing the current administration and insulting people like me, why don't you try to come up with a positive, workable way to deal with it.

As one of the "bureaucrats" I can tell you that I don't appreciate being yelled at and called names, etc. when I'm trying to enforce something that I don't know is not workable.

It is much better to work together, and explain why something will not work. Then waivers and eventually changes in the rules can start to happen.

I did not have a logging background. But I've managed to learn a lot from working with REASONABLE and CALM guys who took time to CALMLY explain the problems. Then we discuss solutions and can come up with alternatives.

Now, can you do that?

Already did. Put all of you and your messiah on a small leaky boat and point it towards the nearest Communist nation. You guys can go to a place like Cuba and turn it into your own personal utopia if it isn't already.