BTW, I love your sig line Jeff, at the end, right before the hand retracts, you can see the little bits of blue squish between the fingers...Love it.
Thats because I went from Iron Maiden to Rush---"Call me the working man!!"
Jeff
BTW, I love your sig line Jeff, at the end, right before the hand retracts, you can see the little bits of blue squish between the fingers...Love it.
This whole thread has been just about as thrilling as cutting brush with a dull saw.
I'm sure it feels much like a civil war amputation with a dull saw MDS.
That you guys feel some treeworkers are deserving of it stiil bothers me.
jomoco
BTW, I love your sig line Jeff, at the end, right before the hand retracts, you can see the little bits of blue squish between the fingers...Love it.
I got no problem with smoking or smokers.
Sorry! I am listening to Iron Maiden and feeling good!
I think some people just arent made to be treeworkers... that is to say If you ground guy drools alot, maybe he better think about a different proffession -and I for one wouldnt be putting him with a WTC! Like someone said earlier "you cant fix stupid". It is sort of sad that whenever I run an ad for help that this is pretty much what I get. So I see your point and i think it is a good and noble thing that your concerned for these people, I just dont see it as being realistic this two guys chipping thing. Its hard enough for us smaller guys to make it out there lately.
This reminds me of a conversation I had with a buddy of mine that works for one of the big line clearance companies. We got talking about this no one handing a saw deal, he said "I think theyre trying to make that a rule". I said "I think it already is, but I'm not sure". He replied "well if it is they had better not enforce it - unless they want to see production slow to a crawl".
Of course I'm just a regular small time treeguy, but thats my opinion FWIW.
I think some people just arent made to be treeworkers... that is to say If you ground guy drools alot, maybe he better think about a different proffession -and I for one wouldnt be putting him with a WTC! Like someone said earlier "you cant fix stupid". It is sort of sad that whenever I run an ad for help that this is pretty much what I get.
So I see your point and i think it is a good and noble thing that your concerned for these people, I just dont see it as being realistic this two guys chipping thing. Its hard enough for us smaller guys to make it out there lately.
This reminds me of a conversation I had with a buddy of mine that works for one of the big line clearance companies. We got talking about this no one handing a saw deal, he said "I think theyre trying to make that a rule". I said "I think it already is, but I'm not sure". He replied "well if it is they had better not enforce it - unless they want to see production slow to a crawl".
theyre gonna do what they do anyway, myself included.
Buncha primadonnas shortchanging your groundmen is what I'm hearing here.
Who speaks on behalf of the under paid,
Buncha primadonnas shortchanging your groundmen is what I'm hearing here.
jomoco
Selective indignation.
Maybe you feel this cause is destined to bring you notoriety? I wouldn't count on it were I you. It may just go the way of the leather cambium saver or the cable bolt aligning device.
You have no idea how we treat our ground personnel and you may be wise to contemplate your treatment of them if you have had 2 near fatalities like you describe.
The fact that I have witnessed 3 separate close calls on my own jobs where a second WTC operator got to the reverse bar quick enough to save a trapped/incapacitated operator from sure death
Jon is a sub-contract climber thats works with alot of different crews, he is not the owner or trainer.
Jeff
Back in the late 80's I worked for Georgia Pacific at a plant here in Georgia.
We had a big chipper for all the log refuse which could chip up too a 40 inch log. It had a 96 inch disc. It was driven by a 1000 horsepower electric motor and the cutter disc was so heavy it had to be started by two hydraulic motors until at 100 RPM's then the electric kicked in.
Anyway, when I first went to work there I noticed this old guy who had a job driving a specially engineered sweeping machine which he could drive with no legs. I assumed he was a vet that had his legs blown off in veitnam or something. WRONG!
He was working in the infeed area clearing debris from in the way of the chipper and signaled the operator to bump the flywheel to see if it was free. He fell onto the feed rollers and got fed into the chipper. The operator shut it down as the guy hung onto some hand rails for dear life. How the guy managed to survive is beyond me but there he was, no legs, driving the floor sweeper.
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