MS461R Chain Tension Issues

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The drive links, part that meshes with the sprocket. When a customer complains about a chain constantly getting loose,
it is very often caused by a problem in this area.
 
HarleyT said:
Tensioners are not designed to hold the bar tight in use, just hold it tight while tightening the bar nuts.......
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True but the only time I have had a chain loosen that fast was when the the braising on the tensioner stud on my 046 broke and in short order the chain was hanging loose. I won't chicken and egg why it broke. And you are assuming he is tightening down the bar nuts sufficiently with that statement.
 
Foragefarmer said:
True but the only time I have had a chain loosen that fast was when the the braising on the tensioner stud on my 046 broke and in short order the chain was hanging loose. I won't chicken and egg why it broke. And you are assuming he is tightening down the bar nuts sufficiently with that statement.
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Ok, well, while setting tension with the screw and then tightening the two large nuts, I can't make them any tighter using the scrench and my hands to tighten them. So without using a socket wrench or other tool, they ain't getting any tighter. :)
 
HarleyT said:
The drive links, part that meshes with the sprocket. When a customer complains about a chain constantly getting loose,
it is very often caused by a problem in this area.
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Ok, interesting. Now I know what you mean. I will grab pics for you tonight. Remember this is a brand new saw. I can't believe the sprocket would be worn out already, or the drive links, but then again I have much to learn.
 
HarleyT said:
The drive links, part that meshes with the sprocket. When a customer complains about a chain constantly getting loose,
it is very often caused by a problem in this area.
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I have experienced this much more with a spur than a rim. I'd be surprised if he has worn his sprocket enough on his first chain to cause this. But I am also frequently wrong about stuff
 
In looking at the pics of you chain teeth, they are not all the same, I think there may be an issue with your sharpening. Try putting the new chain on and see if it resolves your issue. And like HuskStihl says, especially for a new chain, they may stretch a little bit the first time being used.

I think your problem may be cutters not uniform &/or sharp enough, and bar nuts not tight enough. This would easily create your problem.
 
Glockem45 said:
Ok, well, while setting tension with the screw and then tightening the two large nuts, I can't make them any tighter using the scrench and my hands to tighten them. So without using a socket wrench or other tool, they ain't getting any tighter. :)
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And knowing him I'm sure his tight is as good or better than "your tight" or any other members tight. He is a big guy!
 
HarleyT said:
By using the saw for "Noodling", I assume that you are "ripping" logs, instead of splitting, into firewood? 25" dia.?

I would definitely look into a $900 log splitter from TSC. Much easier on everything involved.
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He has a much more than $900 splitter! But you cant flip let alone move around 40" diameter red oak!!! If you can your a much better man than I or him!
 
HarleyT said:
By using the saw for "Noodling", I assume that you are "ripping" logs, instead of splitting, into firewood? 25" dia.?

I would definitely look into a $900 log splitter from TSC. Much easier on everything involved.
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I have a brand new DirtyHands 28-Ton Log Splitter, that I am using to split these quarters. I am taking 25" diameter or larger Rounds of Red and Scarlett Oak that are anywhere from 16-20" long, and Noodling them long ways so they are manageable for me to carry them over to the splitter. Isn't that what Noodling is?
 
I simply said that the chain adjuster was just designed to hold the bar tight while tightening the bar nuts, nothing
about how much **** was in his britches........ So to speak...... Keeping with the underwear motif.......

Another symptom of a saw run with a shot sprocket is "pulled out" or stripped bar studs, when the big guy saw
owner keeps overtightening his bar nuts in a desperate attempt to keep his chain tight.
I am not saying that this applies here, I simply asked for pics.....
 
HarleyT said:
I simply said that the chain adjuster was just designed to hold the bar tight while tightening the bar nuts, nothing
about how much **** was in his britches........ So to speak...... Keeping with the underwear motif.......

Another symptom of a saw run with a shot sprocket is "pulled out" or stripped bar studs, when the big guy saw
owner keeps overtightening his bar nuts in a desperate attempt to keep his chain tight.
I am not saying that this applies here, I simply asked for pics.....
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I just didnt want anyone to think he was limp wristed or only use to a plastic poulan or anything and not know how to tighten bar nuts.

J think the clutch cover would crack before the studs stripped?
 

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