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p61 western

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Working on trying to get past a failed ignition on an early big P series I picked up recently. A bit of experimenting going on.

Took 3 days of soaking in gasoline to get all the pitch off the chain. Original chipper and lots of life.View attachment 520100
What p series is it with the failed ignition?Could you share on the experimenting.
 
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Fat Alice lost her spark. Cleaned the points and now have a weak spark.

Condenser? Coil?
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Runs but is shooting ducks (ignition miss).
 

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I'm trying to track down some oil seals for the 3200 and haven't had any luck with motion Canada, my usual go to. The pioneer part number is 427656. Has anyone got a modern equivalent? Tia
 
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These should fit. Double lip (dust seal), metal case
The width (depth installed) is 0.312". You would have to make sure there is enough room in the case pocket.
Same dimensions on both.
Your shaft is 0.591" These are listed for that size as well as 0.593"

The OD is 1.128" on the seal which fits a 1.124" nominal bore. TCM used to make 28.58mm bore size seals but don't seem to anymore.

Timken 471532 and

Daemar S05911231BS

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Type

Oil Seals Inch Series

I.D.

0.593 in

O.D.

1.125 in

Seal Width - W

0.312 in

Profile





BS


Material

NitrilePASiliconeViton
 
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Good work as usual Tim. I am not up to speed on this aspect of the game.

I'm trying to track down some oil seals for the 3200 and haven't had any luck with motion Canada, my usual go to. The pioneer part number is 427656. Has anyone got a modern equivalent? Tia

I should be swapping out the seals on my machine as well. That 427656 is for the FW side only? Do you have the measurements for the 428746 on the PTO?
 
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Good work as usual Tim. I am not up to speed on this aspect of the game.



I should be swapping out the seals on my machine as well. That 427656 is for the FW side only? Do you have the measurements for the 428746 on the PTO?

The 428746 is the large P series seal.

Use SKF 5606 double lip or National 472705 double lip Nitrile

Fits bore size 1.00 inch and shaft size 9/16"
 
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Dumb question from a mac guy to you pioneer collectors, my dad has a model 650 pioneer, but I believe it's white bottom instead of yellow like I've seen on google, does this mean anything to you guys?
 

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