this thread is just too ironic,,,yesterday we were clearing an area around a state champion river birch here in the st. louis area,,,i know that i get poison ivy all the time and pretty bad,,,but as the day went on,,,i got up to my knees in the stuff and woke up today itching like a s.o.b.,,,i used technu during the job and after,,,last year i used something that vermeer sells called oral ivy,,,take three drops in a class of water a day and helped me out quite a bit,,,just havent gone and gotten more of it yet this year