Why does everyone toast hours on the net than abbreviate the **** out of things? I don't know wtf the M in MBF means. Hence the thread.
Pricing logs?
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Yes! Poplar makes great plywood for cabinets but for dimensional lumber it depends on what you are going to use it for.
I would use it for furniture but I would not use it for cabinet doors, personally.
I don't know if you intended to be funny but you did make me laugh!
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if its big oversize stuff, then its getting 1,000-900 mbf at the local mill, more for smaller dia stuff at the big boy mills SP/Hampton. and no one seems to care about knots anymore except the Japan export, which isn't an issue for gub-a-mint wood.
1000 board feet,
MBF stands for Manufactured Board Feet, its definitely one of the things that is messed up in translation.
If you find yourself in a Forest Service sale, they do everything based on CC's which is roughly Tons so you have to do mental leaps to figure tons per approximate MBF to come up with a realistic quote, Most of them are in the 300-1,000+ CC's meaning hundreds or thousands of log truck loads and millions of board feet in timber, the scope of these sales seems enormous to an untrained eye, but a million board feet won't keep the big mills fed for a month, despite which, the forests keep getting thicker and gaining acreage every year.
The letter "M" stands for 1,000 in the lumber industry, so "MBF" is the abbreviation for 1,000 board feet. Think Roman numerals for 1000.
To answer your question, if you are in the business, I guess mbf is a more common expression than the words that it represents. If you are talking speed, mph and kph are commonly recognized. Nobody questions psi when they read the label on their tire (while in the USA, the last bastion of the English measurement system). So... kindly don't get so pissy about folks using a common expression that you just don't happen to be familiar with.
Here's a question for you! Why are ALL the movie credits displaying the year it was made in Roman numerals? Even the Romans don't use Roman numerals anymore.
It's prairie colonization wood, so it's a mixed bag. Knotty oversize, lots of 8-12" pecker poles, a bunch of pretty nice 20-30" 2-3 saw in between.
Will that be all sir?
well... ya learn somefink everyday...
The roman numeral thang totally makes sense now though. scribling out 1000, on every thing would take forever.
As fer the movies, I may be a paid actor... no seriously... but I haven't a clue why they use a janky system like roman numerals.
Doyle scale around here. If 18" on the small end then it is 14x14x20/16=245 bf
Grading and scaling are two different things -- a cruiser estimates the log volume of standing trees, where a scaler estimates the volume and value of a log on the ground. Because of taper and defect and knots, when we cruise we start with a volume based on the Diameter at Breast Height (DBH, or 4.5 feet) compared against a table that accounts for some of those deductions. Douglas-Fir is our main commercial species here. A 20" stem starts at 400 bf, and then in 16' logs a 120' tall tree might grade out like this: Log #1 2 saw - 15% for sweep, Log #2 clean 2 saw, Log #3 clean 3 saw, log #4 3 saw -50% because forked, log #5 utility, log #6 utility, log #7 topwood/cull. Logs on the truck are usually 32-40', depending on what the mill wants, so why do we grade in 16' logs? Because the math works better, and we can capture the defect more accurately. It doesn't change the scaled volume at all but it gives our cruise data more information about the quality of the wood in the overall sale.
