Putting left over chain saw gas mix in a car?

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David (saltas)

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When I was 20 I put some oversize stem valves in a Honda XR350 a long time ago
I got it a little hot durring the running period.
( I rode the bike to work 25 miles and I was running late)
any way that afternoon when I went to ride it home it had a stuck valve.

The fix was hit the head with a big nylon hammer.
Use some of my AV gas from my race bike (lots a lead in that 100~140 octane) and some two stroke oil.

Ran a couple of tanks through it like that and it never stuck a valve again.
 
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I do it all the time. I keep my mixed fuel no longer than 30 days, then it goes in my 07 Tacoma. I know guys that actually add 2 stroke oil to their vehicles on every fill up. The reasoning was to lubricate the fuel pump. It's really a diluted mixture, like 3oz to a tankfull. I don't know if it actually does what they think it does, but it probably doesn't hurt either.

I add mixing oil to my 99 Dodge diesel to lube the injection pump. 3.2 oz Woodland Pro in 30 gal.
diesel. Old mix log splitter.
Shep
 
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I've run it in just about everything I drive. When E10 first came out I used too dump a bottle of pennsoil 2-stroke oil in the tank of my truck (oo f150) since the ethonal is so dry (less lube = more injector wear, fuel pump, etc)

I ran straight 40-1 4 year old boat gas in a old nissan and it liked it. Smoked a little more but it was 20+ gallons of free gas and the engine still runs decent 3 years later.
 
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I add mixing oil to my 99 Dodge diesel to lube the injection pump. 3.2 oz Woodland Pro in 30 gal.
diesel. Old mix log splitter.
Shep

I know guys that were dumping a quart of walmart tcw3 ashless into each tank on them. The vp is a bad pump to start with and a p pump will fix all them problems. Just not cheap to do but cheaper than 2 vps.

Leftover mix if any is around ends up used in the burn pile. I get non ethanol so unless it goes over 3 months old I keep using it.
 
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Why not keep it handy for the saw? I mix saw gas 5 gals at a time and sometimes it will last 6 months+ (I don't normally do much chainsaw cutting, just mostly used for limbing stuff the delimber can't get and cutting the tree lengths in half for the firewood processor.)
 
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No, the VP isn't a bad pump, just Dodge had a bad fuel design to feed them. Fix the fuel feed and the pump will live a long time.
Also if you get a cheapish rebuild the pump ECM is not replaced and that has made a bad name for the pumps too.
I won't say they are my favorite setup, but they aren't bad either. Lot of heavy equipment used that similar setup, as well as VW, AUDI, BMW, Chevy/GMC, Ford, etc... yeah... the DB series pumps are pretty similar to a VP44.

The p7100 is more robust, but also much more simple... not capable of dynamic timing adjustments.
In theory the VP44 should get much better fuel mileage. It doesn't, I don't know why, but it certainly make less polluti0n.

In case your wondering, I went to school for this stuff haha.

I know guys that were dumping a quart of walmart tcw3 ashless into each tank on them. The vp is a bad pump to start with and a p pump will fix all them problems. Just not cheap to do but cheaper than 2 vps.

Leftover mix if any is around ends up used in the burn pile. I get non ethanol so unless it goes over 3 months old I keep using it.
 
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Why not keep it handy for the saw?
Automotive fuel breaks down, regardless of the ethanol issue - lots of info on this on the chainsaw and gasoline vendors websites. Modern chainsaw carbs are fussier than car fuel injectors. I label my fuel with the date of purchase - if it is over 30 days old, it goes in the car. Might be over protective, but effective and easy to follow.

One gallon of 50:1 fuel, mixed in with another 10 gallons of straight gas, works out to a 500:1 mix. Usually I am not adding more than 1/2 a gallon, so that is 1,000:1

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http://www.stihlusablog.com/2012/03/gasoline-guidelines-for-stihl-outdoor.html

http://www.stihlusa.com/WebContent/CMSFileLibrary/Gasoline_Guidelines-1.pdf
 

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No, the VP isn't a bad pump, just Dodge had a bad fuel design to feed them. Fix the fuel feed and the pump will live a long time.
Also if you get a cheapish rebuild the pump ECM is not replaced and that has made a bad name for the pumps too.
I won't say they are my favorite setup, but they aren't bad either. Lot of heavy equipment used that similar setup, as well as VW, AUDI, BMW, Chevy/GMC, Ford, etc... yeah... the DB series pumps are pretty similar to a VP44.

The p7100 is more robust, but also much more simple... not capable of dynamic timing adjustments.
In theory the VP44 should get much better fuel mileage. It doesn't, I don't know why, but it certainly make less polluti0n.

In case your wondering, I went to school for this stuff haha.
I've had a crap shoot on those pumps. One was fed with a FASS with 14-15 lbs of fuel from 8k miles and the pump died at 52k. One lasted to 92k and didn't get a FASS until 40k. I wouldn't turn down a good deal on one of those trucks because of it but it's the least favorite for me. I prefer the VE pump for a daily driver looking for mileage.
 
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Freaked out my old S-10 O2 sensor with a little mineral spirits. After some run time it straightened up. Never do that again.

I dump the old mix in my Ranger a few times per year without a hitch. Figure its better than most store bought top-end lube. My lawn mower eats it on occasion as well. If you have any of the 4-stroke(not 4-mix) trimmers/blowers with crankcase oil they will be little affected by water in the same way of a 2-cycle and can eat this old mix with little trouble. 4-mix engines circulate through the case and water will rob the lub properties same as 2-cycle leading to its death.
 
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I use it as long as it's not several years old.

QUOTE="Philbert, post: 5232165, member: 12609"]Automotive fuel breaks down, regardless of the ethanol issue - lots of info on this on the chainsaw and gasoline vendors websites. Modern chainsaw carbs are fussier than car fuel injectors. I label my fuel with the date of purchase - if it is over 30 days old, it goes in the car. Might be over protective, but effective and easy to follow.

One gallon of 50:1 fuel, mixed in with another 10 gallons of straight gas, works out to a 500:1 mix. Usually I am not adding more than 1/2 a gallon, so that is 1,000:1

Philbert



http://www.stihlusablog.com/2012/03/gasoline-guidelines-for-stihl-outdoor.html

http://www.stihlusa.com/WebContent/CMSFileLibrary/Gasoline_Guidelines-1.pdf[/QUOTE]
 
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I dump it in the lawn tractor/wood splitter, sometimes my 1976 F250 with a 390V8. It doesn't care. I am hesitant to put it into my 2012 F150 though...

I used to run 2 stroke oil in my Mazda RX7, a small bottle every couple tanks, it liked that. Smelled like a saw when I drove by!
 

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