This is an interesting and long thread, a bit about where I live and have lived. If you drive north by car on the E6 from the capital Oslo in Norway outside rush traffic for approx. 10 - 15 minutes or by train for 12 minutes, you will reach Lillestrøm where I live. Have not always lived here but grew up in the country in agricultural areas with lots of forest where I worked on a farm in my teens. I have some experience as a logger from my twenties, but that was a long time ago, today I only use chainsaws in the garden and for some firewood.