The 361 is Back!

[Cut4fun]

DN tested the 357 and 361 together

Guess some had missed this test between the DN Husky 357 and the Stihl 361.


Comparison Husq 357 vs Stihl 361

(I have 2 new saws that I am going to work on and I thought it would be interesting to do a little comparing before I started. Both saws are new and each one has had about 6 tanks of fuel run through them, the same length bar and chain was used on both saws 16" s/nose with the same chain, Stihl 3/8 chisel new out of the box [ never filed nor were the rakers touched ]. The saws were adjusted for peak performance in this wood.
The wood I used was 10.5 in diameter rock maple cut 2hrs earlier, there were no knots and I will say that it was extremely hard. My wife Karen did the timing, she has timed hundreds of race contests so she knows what she is doing. She also could care less which saws works best.
I made 3 warm-up cuts with each saw and then made 3 seperate cuts that were timed, we then averaged the times and this is what we found.
Stihl averaged 7.42 sec.
Husq averaged 6.65 sec.

I found both saws to run good and smooth and with anything you will find somethings that you like and some you don't. I hope you find this interesting and helpful.)

Now if we only new how they ran after the mods. Any test out there Big Dave that you did after those mods?

 

[Haywire Haywood]

Well, Don't care what it sounds like. how does it perform,
compared to a stack 361 ?
How does your saw start.
At Idle is it smoother or does it still feel like it is having a seizor ?

Videos forthcoming this afternoon.... short ones... my camera will only do 15 second clips.

Ian

 

[Haywire Haywood]

Here ya go... Idling cold, had been running about 15 or 20 seconds. Choke, fires on second pull, starts on third every time.



Here it is running in 15" Black Locust that has been cut and on that stand about a month.



Here is Dave's Muffler Mod.

 

[Haywire Haywood]

Here... as a comparison, this is the top of a large crotch that I got from a local sawmill. It has been laying out behind the place for a good long time. He says it's Hickory, I thought the bark looked more like oak but the hickory I am used to seeing is shagbark. Measures 16-18" depending on where you lay the tape.



Ian

 

[talon1189]

Cool videos.......The 1st one of the saw idling looks like the saw is walking it's way outside to get to the wood :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Talon

 

[manual]

Dave sure can build a saw.
Holds a good power band.

 

[talon1189]

Dave sure can build a saw.
Holds a good power band.

So what is the claim on increased power on this woods port upgrade? About 20% increase in horspower and torque? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Talon

 

[manual]

Dave will have to answer that question. Mines still on the drawing board.
"Learning Curve".

 

[Haywire Haywood]

So what is the claim on increased power on this woods port upgrade?

IIRC I believe he said 25% bump in cutting speed. Whatever that translates to in power/torque, I am jumping-up-and-down happy. I finished cutting up that oak/hickory and it ran like a champ, cut thru that stuff lke a hot knife thru butter.
On a side note, I've changed my mind about that chisel chain, it ran a lot smoother today and cut fast. I'll still end up getting semi for the long bar because I'll most likely be using it for cutting stumps.

Ian

 

[Cut4fun]

357 361 modded times and others

I found these on a older post from a few years ago. Some modded 357 and 361 times and some other saws too.


Here are times in 10x10 pine, 2 cuts
357--5.12- modded
361--5.62- modded
361--12.01--stock saw
394--6.59
181--6.63
372--9.65--stock saw
346--5.86-- modded
I have a 361 modded and brother in law has a 357 modded. Here are some times of these saws compared to larger ones. 3 cuts in 9x9 poplar.
361--7.60
357--6.91
371--8.72
181--7.47
385--8.35
166--7.16
394--7.20

 

[talon1189]

I found these on a older post from a few years ago. Some modded 357 and 361 times and some other saws too.


Here are times in 10x10 pine, 2 cuts
357--5.12- modded
361--5.62- modded
361--12.01--stock saw
394--6.59
181--6.63
372--9.65--stock saw
346--5.86-- modded
I have a 361 modded and brother in law has a 357 modded. Here are some times of these saws compared to larger ones. 3 cuts in 9x9 poplar.
361--7.60
357--6.91
371--8.72
181--7.47
385--8.35
166--7.16
394--7.20

Thanks for the info Cut Now I can't wait for my modded muffler for my MS 361 :hmm3grin2orange: Grrrrrrrrrrrr :rockn: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Talon

 

[GASoline71]

The muffler mod on the MS361 will wake that saw right up! Mine made a big difference in grunt while pullin' a 25" bar. Love it!!!

Gary

 

[Lakeside53]

Thanks for the info Cut Now I can't wait for my modded muffler for my MS 361 :hmm3grin2orange: Grrrrrrrrrrrr :rockn: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Talon

Patience, grasshopper... Read your PMs...

 

[manual]

Lakeside you had better hury or Talon will get in his turbo charged talon and be at your house soon enough.


Oh by the way did you notice that Husky was faster in the times.

 

[talon1189]

Lakeside you had better hury or Talon will get in his turbo charged talon and be at your house soon enough.


Oh by the way did you notice that Husky was faster in the times.

OK Manual...........The secret is out just for ya cuz you are from the great state of Michigan...........I have a turbocharged 1990 Eagle Talon AWD that I have personally hand built the motor myself :hmm3grin2orange: thus.......my name Talon1189 meaning my best ET to date per 2 years ago. Next spring.......10's are in the works at the dragway complete with Big Brutus strapped in the passenger seat for support and punishment if some poor soul may beat me in da race PS just don't tell Thall........Shhhhhh >>>>>>>>>>>>>.Talon

 

[manual]

Don't worry about Thall I keep him busy in the prince forum.
Never Knew That I had a 361 for two weeks after I got it. LoL
Your going to like that Muffler modd It will give Big Brutus a whole new meaning of testosterone

 

[talon1189]

Don't worry about Thall I keep him busy in the prince forum.
Never Knew That I had a 361 for two weeks after I got it. LoL
Your going to like that Muffler modd It will give Big Brutus a whole new meaning of testosterone

Yup.............Big Brutus seemed excited knowing that Thall was gonna film another academy award film with chainsaws Big Brutus wanted to see a video of "ole Tom" in his debut cut to get dirty I wanna see a 361 video in action as only Big Brutus can relate to his anchesters What do you think of your own Ms 361 Manual? You are quite quiet bout your newer purchase Have ya totally decided whatca gonna do with this saw???????? >>>>>>>>>>>>>Talon