For us it all depends on what category your certification's are for and what the chemical is.We are not required to report/ call anyone when/what restricted use spray we use, just keep records as to what,when,where. That's with a private license.
For us it all depends on what category your certification's are for and what the chemical is.We are not required to report/ call anyone when/what restricted use spray we use, just keep records as to what,when,where. That's with a private license.
What's the DEC?I didn't read all the posts so it may have been covered but here a call to the DEC would have quickly gotten answers to what was sprayed when it was sprayed and what the application rate was.
Welcome anytime.What's the DEC?
edit: Thanks LW.
Probably ought to refrigerate those samples.Got my samples.
Still waiting to see what the inspector says.
I may send them off to be tested if I'm not satisfied with the inspectors results.
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Oh, my, this is a gem of a website!
That's what I thought too.Probably ought to refrigerate those samples.
First mention of the county ag extension.
Good idea. I'll call them right now.
No, I went right to the source - DoA website.Silly me. I figured that was how you got a hold of the Dept of Ag guy. That's how your find 'em in Missouri.
If so, then paying $485 to have them analyzed would be a colossal waste of money.Your samples are junk in a court of law, no chain of custody.
I'd say when dealing with Bayer and Monsanto, you've lost before you even begin.If you want"your own samples" have a 3rd party take them.
Columbia can not only test for the herbicide, but metabolites - it tells if the plant responded to a growth regulator herbicide...even after the herbicide is gone.
BUT, be aware, that won't be a "final" answer. I worked with a case where we sent samples. They came back with #xyz. I asked what that meant...not surprising to find glyphosate residue when surrounded but literally thousands of acres of RoundUp ready corn and beans. "Do those numbers represent damaging levels?" They couldn't offer details...just that it was there. Extension or the State University couldn't help. I called Bayer. After a few weeks and a follow-up call all I could get was "that is not an insignificant level." Does that mean it is enough to have killed the tree? No further info available... I supptif it goes to court some of that might be discovered with a subpoena. But may be protected trade secrets???
Big Pharma, including Bayer and Monsanto are evil.The folks i spoke with were very helpful. they just couldn't give much more detail. part of that is they don't have a lot of research on the species of trees impacted. They can't be making definitive statements about things they don't have the documentation to back up.
I'm NOT a fan of dicamba. But that doesn't mean I don't recognize some realities. It has been around for decades. It is still around (and likely here to stay) because:
A) It is effective
B) The newer formulations are supposed to be lower volatility. You described drift in the OP. That IS an applicator problem...not a chemical problem. Yes, the chemicals will damage off target plants when used incorrectly, but is that much different than a driver drifting out of their lane and causing an accident? That is not a manufacture problem...it is a driver problem.
C) Many broadleaf weeds are resistant to glyphosate. Therefore the next generations of soybeans will likely be dicamba resistant because those weeds are effectively killed by dicamba. I don't see this as necessarily good news because of volitilization.
As stated earlier, dicamba (or any other herbicide) is a tool. When used properly it can be very effective and improving crop efficiencies (thereby keeping food prices more affordable). When used improperly, it can cause damage. Just like many other tools.
I guess my point is, don't make moral judgements and assume people or companies are evil. These are legitimate businesses trying to provide a product or service that meets their client's needs.
If the determination is that the herbicide caused damage, recognize that a mistake was made. If that is the case, the responsible party(s) should be held liable and everybody should move on.
Your samples are junk in a court of law, no chain of custody.
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