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The three leafed poison ivy that grows in Wisconsin only gets about two feet tall and is not a climbing ivy vine at all. The only climbing vines I have come in contact with in 50 years of cutting firewood are a nonpoisonous 5-leaf ivy and wild grapes that grow vines up to 6 inches in diameter. I don't know what poison oak or poison sumac are but don't think they are vines either.
The ones to worry about are the low growing ones about 2 feet tall with lots of little green berries at this time of year although they don't bother me.
Go for it and good luck. Ken

The PI I have experienced in Ohio and PA, are vines that grow up the tree as well as low to the ground. I personally haven't seen any over 4" diameter.

A good tell tale sign in the winter, is the vine being "fuzzy." Grape vines have a bark more like Silver Maple; Large and kind of flaky. PI has a tighter bark and is extremely fuzzy where it attaches to the tree.
 
Trim if off and hope for the best. I wash with dish soap after handling stuff like that.
 
i get it pretty bad too. ive found that pre exposure cream works well. just rub it on before atving or cutting wood. gloves and leave the vines in the woods. as long as i remember to do it im ok.

my father inlaw used to brag about how he didnt get it all his life and we were cutting some atv trails last year and he got it pretty good. after 50 some years you still better be carefull.
 
Had a guy give me a good size ash tree that blew down went to go start cutting it up since it was good and frozen and get there and small poison ivy vines from bottom of trunk up into the branches. I usually won't cut any fire wood with any ivy vines on it and figured that is a no no. What do you guys do in this situation seems all the trees lately going down have vines on them just my luck.

What to look for - Poison Ivy - look for the little thumb on one of the leaves
http://www.csdl.tamu.edu/FLORA/mi07/mi07072.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/RodeoDrive/Mall/4992/poisonimages.html
 
my father inlaw used to brag about how he didnt get it all his life and we were cutting some atv trails last year and he got it pretty good. after 50 some years you still better be carefull.

Ayup.

Took 36 years for me to become allergic. !@#$%%@#@
 
I use a lot of rubbing alcohol to wash off with in the woods if I know or feel like I've been in it. It will cut thru the oil.

+1
I do the same after coming in contact with the stuff. I'm itching all over just reading this thread.
 
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The two worst poison ivy cases I've had in my adult life, have been in the winter.

A few weeks ago I enjoyed a 10 day stint on Prednisone due to PI. :monkey:

The last few times I've cut firewood in poison ivy, I've taken a shower using Dawn dish washing liquid to wash. So far it is working. The Tecnu stuff works well, but is pricey.

When I'm cutting, I keep a bottle of dish detergent in my shower too. If I end up getting it....Zanfel gets rid of it in a couple hours and instant itch relief.:bowdown:
 
The two worst poison ivy cases I've had in my adult life, have been in the winter.

A few weeks ago I enjoyed a 10 day stint on Prednisone due to PI. :monkey:

The last few times I've cut firewood in poison ivy, I've taken a shower using Dawn dish washing liquid to wash. So far it is working. The Tecnu stuff works well, but is pricey.

i have been nailed like that to, thought i was ok in the winter and washed good soon afterwards. it was all over my body and i got the 10 day stint on Prednisone to, not fun.......i had gloves and was covered, didnt matter.
 
I just cut 'em up like my other wood. If the vines pulled off easy I'll pull off otherwise I don't bother. I use to get poison ivy every year but since I started using Technu I've lucked out.

Now if you or a family member are super sensitive to it you have to come up with a different plan.

For me it was just an inconvenience I could live with until it got on my Johnson tool....which was rare but then I would go to the Doc's.
 
Here is a picture of PI that I'm used to seeing. This stuff only grows 4-8" tall and has oily shinny leaves. I've never seen it as a vine.

When I was reading that PI grows as a vine, I got a bit alarmed because the woods that I'm cutting is full of vines. I'm glad someone from WI chimed in about PI vines not growing in our area. Now I know what Tarzan swung on! :)

Leaves of three, let them be. Also, if you don't have TP and you're out in the woods, make sure you know which vegetation you choose to use!

poisonivy.jpg


The picture came from here: MN DNR

Here is what they say about it:

Not a true ivy plant, western poison ivy is well known for producing a skin irritant.
Identification

General description: Western poison ivy is a smallish, nonclimbing shrub usually about knee high, with a single stem and only a few stubby branches or no branches at all.

Leaves: The leaves can be relatively large but always with three leaflets. Virginia creeper (Parthenocissus quinquefolia) and woodbine (P. vitacea) are similar but have 5 leaflets instead of 3. Jack-in-the-pulpit (Arisaema triphyllum) and the trilliums (Trillium spp.) do have 3 leaflets, but they have nonwoody stems. It may be enough to keep in mind that western poison ivy has a short woody stem and 3 leaflets.
Habitat and range

Western poison ivy occurs essentially statewide and is common everywhere except the northern tier of counties. Although it is primarily a forest species, it is adapted to a remarkably wide range of ecological conditions. It occurs in the interior of mature hardwood forests but also in young successional forests, forest ecotones, and brushy thickets. It is also found in native prairies (where fire has been suppressed), sand dunes, talus, rock fields, and floodplains. It seems to be absent only from permanently wet habitats.
Population and management

Western poison ivy often forms colonies, sometimes 20 ft (6 m) or more across. They grow quickly and can spread aggressively, especially in damaged habitats. This is certainly the case on roadsides, ditch banks, utility rights-of-way, and old fields. It is also notoriously adept at encroaching into mowed lawns from adjacent woods.
About the poison

The sap contains a toxic oily compound (3-n-pentadecyl-catechol) that is found in the leaves, flowers, stems, and roots. If any portion of the plant is bruised or broken, the poison may exude onto the surface, which is how people typically come in contact with it. It is initially a clear liquid, but it turns into a black gummy substance in a few hours and can remain toxic for an indefinite period, reportedly for several hundred years.

Contact may be direct between plant and bare skin, or the poison may travel on the fur of a dog, camping equipment, clothing, or other intermediary. The compound is not volatile, so it is not normally transmitted through the air, although it can be carried as droplets on particles of ash in the smoke of burning plants. Such particles are sometimes inhaled, causing serious problems, or they can settle on surfaces and be picked up from there.

Sensitivity to poisoning can vary from individual to individual and can change over time. Very few individuals are immune, and those that appear so could easily lose their immunity unexpectedly. The poison is absorbed by the skin almost immediately, although symptoms may not appear for 12 to 24 hours or in some cases several days. Washing the exposed skin with soap and cold water (warm water speeds absorption through the skin) probably will not prevent symptoms from appearing unless done with 1 to 3 minutes after exposure, but washing can remove residual poison and prevent it from being spread. The fluid in the blisters does not contain the poison and cannot spread the rash. A number of animal species regularly eat the fruit and leaves with no apparent harmful effects; in fact, it appears that only humans are susceptible.
 
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Here is a picture of PI that I'm used to seeing. This stuff only grows 4-8" tall and has oily shinny leaves. I've never seen it as a vine.

When I was reading that PI grows as a vine, I got a bit alarmed because the woods that I'm cutting is full of vines. I'm glad someone from WI chimed in about PI vines not growing in our area. Now I know what Tarzan swung on! :)

Leaves of three, let them be. Also, if you don't have TP and you're out in the woods, make sure you know which vegetation you choose to use!

poisonivy.jpg


The picture came from here: MN DNR

Manyhobbies,

PI will grow near the ground untill it spreads enough to run out of light, then send a runner up as a vine.

If ya got it growing, it will grow a vine as soon as it is contained by light or soil restrictions.

Mind the vines.;)

This time of year, woodvine and PI vines often look the same unless there are branches.

Good luck to ya! I fight it as well.

Stay safe!
Dingeryote
 
We have both here, bush PI and vine PI. I've been lucky in that I know I'm allergic but just pull it off as I'm bucking and try to remember not to wipe sweat with my gloved hand.

Ian
 
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