Which would you prefer MS046 or MS0462

[James Sawyer]

A friend is looking at MS046mag which is supposed to in good condition vs buying a new MS462R (carb saw). From what I remember the 046 was a very good saw in it's time. So...whats your opinion... it is worth saving $350 difference in cost. From what I remember those 046 pull a long bar pretty well?

 

[bwalker]

I always thought the 460 was kind of a turd in stock form.
I woukd go 462 based on anti vibe snd filtration alone.

 

[lone wolf]

I always thought the 460 was kind of a turd in stock form.
I woukd go 462 based on anti vibe snd filtration alone.

Well I can tell you, my 046 certainly isn't a turd powerwise for what its worth. You make a good point about newer saws, about the antivibe I pretty much use all the newer stuff because of that.

 

[bwalker]

Well I can tell you my 046 certainly isn't a turd for what its worth.

I based on running a 460 and a 372 back to back both stone stock. The 460 is very slightly faster in some circumstances, but not in others. The anti vibe was garbage as was the filtration system. Muffler mod the 372 and it was in the lead.
The stihl pro saws of that era were all turds IMO and a generation behind Husky performance wise.

 

[lone wolf]

I based on running a 460 and a 372 back to back both stone stock. The 460 is very slightly faster in some circumstances, but not in others. The anti vibe was garbage as was the filtration system. Muffler mod the 372 and it was in the lead.
The stihl pron saws of that era were all turds IMO and a generation behind Husky performance wise.

I had a lot of Husky's they ran great performance wise but the Stihl's held up better.

 

[James Sawyer]

I always thought the 460 was kind of a turd in stock form.
I woukd go 462 based on anti vibe snd filtration alone.

are you talking about MS460....I'm talking about MS046 which was built in the 90's 76cc saw?

 

[bwalker]

are you talking about MS460....I'm talking about MS046 which was built in the 90's 76cc saw?

They are basicly the same saw.

 

[bwalker]

I had a lot of Husky's they ran great performance wise but the Stihl's held up better.

The only stihls I ran long term back then was the MS440 and it was no better or worse than the 372 in that regard.

 

[lone wolf]

They are basicly the same saw.

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That's all I can find so far. The older ones had a D shaped combustion chamber.

 

[James Sawyer]

There old saws…I was thinking it would have better torque

 

[lone wolf]

There old saws…I was thinking it would have better torque

https://www.arboristsite.com/threads/038-044-046-064-ms440-ms441-ms460-specs-facts.150936/

 

[rupedoggy]

Anyone that comes on here and says the 046 is a turd is not worth listening to!

 

[lone wolf]

There old saws…I was thinking it would have better torque

I tell you what I can name a few Homelite 925 Super, Homelite 1130 G ,288 Husky,this is not a comprehensive list just a few I remember had good torque.

 

[lone wolf]

Anyone that comes on here and says the 046 is a turd is not worth listening to!

My 046 is dead even with my Dolmar 7900 with both wearing 20 in bars. Dolmar 7900 is a hell of a good saw.

 

[bwalker]

There old saws…I was thinking it would have better torque

Stihls had less torque than Huskys back then. And it's not surprising when looking at the early 80's cylinder designs of the stihl vs the modern 4 transfer XP cylinder of the Husky.

 

[bwalker]

My 046 is dead even with my Dolmar 7900 with both wearing 20 in bars. Dolmar 7900 is a hell of a good saw.

The 460 was not even with the 7900 I owned. The 7900 was also not a a whole lot faster than the 372 as some would have you believe.

 

[lone wolf]

The 460 was not even with the 7900 owned. The 7900 was also not a a whole lot faster than the 372 as some would have you believe.

Well my 046 was even with the Dolmar with both 20 in bars, prob change with a 28 in favor of the Dolmar. I strongly suspect the 045 is a bit stronger than MS 460.

 

[bwalker]

Anyone that comes on here and says the 046 is a turd is not worth listening to!

I logged hardwood with both saws. Have you?

 

[N8Dawg]

Probably biased here, as I ran 046's before I got stuck with a hydraulic chainsaw. Still have 4 of them, that will last me the rest of days. I wouldn't call them dogs by any means. Personally, I don't care for the new av on the newer Stihls, feels floppy,.. like a husky. I just like the solid feel the old saws had. Even if you have to clean the filter every day. Like running a race car, vs.a spongy tuna boat. I might feel different if I had to run one daily. That being said, a 046 is 20+ years old. So if the difference is only a couple hundred dollers, you would be better off with a new saw, unless the old one is very low hours. Imo, the Stihl saws from the 90's (pre epa regulation) are longer lived, tougher, and will pull chips as good as anything made today.

 

[lone wolf]

Probably biased here, as I ran 046's before I got stuck with a hydraulic chainsaw. Still have 4 of them, that will last me the rest of days. I wouldn't call them dogs by any means. Personally, I don't care for the new av on the newer Stihls, feels floppy,.. like a husky. I just like the solid feel the old saws had. Even if you have to clean the filter every day. Like running a race car, vs.a spongy tuna boat. I might feel different if I had to run one daily. That being said, a 046 is 20+ years old. So if the difference is only a couple hundred dollers, you would be better off with a new saw, unless the old one is very low hours. Imo, the Stihl saws from the late 90's (pre epa regulation) are longer lived, tougher, and will pull chips as good as anything made today.

Run an old one and a new one in a couple cuts each and notice how much the old one will vibrate your hands. Big difference.