Well the 500I is lighter so that is a win .
I need a larger chainsaw
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Best upgrade for a saw, is a razor sharp chisel chain, heck ya might even think it 10cc’s bigger than it actually is,
WI_Hedgehog
You bought a WHAT???!!
Have you run one? Personally, that necessitates double hearing protection for me but it does throw chips.
The MS 400 ported picks up a bunch of power according to Stumpshot (a porter who's place I was at a few weeks back), however the 400 is already pretty loud/powerful stock, plus tweaking the chain for the wood does wonders, though does require an interest in additional filing skills. I'd probably look into getting the MS 400 Woods Ported due to @ace4059 cutting 24" and larger trees, though first I'd work on developing a hand-file on a Grandberg Jig that works for the wood. If that wasn't enough then I'd look at an MS 500, but that's me and might not be "the thing" for @ace4059.
The OP is essentially looking for a spare saw or so two people can cut at the same time, therefore this purchase doesn't really need to be compatible with others. Just buy what you want. I have used a 500i and they are awesome, I have a 460 so don't really need one and I like tunable carbs.
Fore cutting firewood logs I like a big engine and a short bar (for that engine). The saw does lots of vertical cuts, is supported in the wood and is carried less
Fore cutting firewood logs I like a big engine and a short bar (for that engine). The saw does lots of vertical cuts, is supported in the wood and is carried less
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That is what I meant to say.
Best saw I have ever run.
I agree with your research. My favorite saw trio is my ported 261 (18" - 3/8), and two ported 462s (20" + 24"). Next in line is a ported 440/460 Hyrbid with 28" bar, and if I need more I have a ported 661 with 32" 404 and a few 660s (used mostly for milling) with 36".
If your saws are not ported, you may want to have the 400 ported to give you the performance difference you are looking for. I purchased both my 462s before the 400s came out, but I hear they are VG saws. Not sure what species or size wood you cut, but my ported 462s are just fine with 20 + 24" bars. My hybrid has more torque, but the 462s have great throttle response and speed, and I appreciate the clean air filter tech and reasonable fuel consumption. So, for my purposes, I clearly choose them over a 500, and my hybrid clearly fills the gap a 500 would fill. My 661 has a foam filter upgrade and I run a winter filter (metal screen) on my hybrid.
I run square file chain on all my saws.
Not a chance. The 660 will pull away from just about everything. 066 even more so. Much worse AV but in this situation of only a short stint cutting I'd take a new or like new 660, muffler update and go forth. The 500I has no tuning and bolt on mods like the 660. If you're pulling a 32 in hardwoods all day everyday go for more stroke. If your not skip chain is your friend in 80cc or less. A clean ported 650 or 064 is also a potent simple design.
If you can go find a 462 and run one this is probably the question you need to answer. The 500 is just like a 650 as far as power goes. The long stroke will pull better in longer bars so pick your poison wisely for your bar length you will be running. A clean ported 650 or 660 will be near the cost of a 500I with a muffler cover. Most decide before they look if modern AV and Mtronic helps them. It does not help me milling. In need of stroke and tuning over light weight and AV. 500I wouldn't live long on my mill 661 is a maybe. One way to find out.
The filter on a 500I can't be that bad with a sharp chain. They can be changed and covered with a foam wrap. Or swap out the whole filter for something better.
WI_Hedgehog
You bought a WHAT???!!
NO! NO! Sit! Stay! Roll over!7/16" file?
(Not on X-Cut anyway.)
I cut the wood you pointy-corner guys cant.
Oh I see the skanky to , but clean wood there square chain hard to beat , the RS Pro NK chain pretty sweet thoe ,NO! NO! Sit! Stay! Roll over!
(Not on X-Cut anyway.)
I cut the wood you pointy-corner guys cant.
WI_Hedgehog
You bought a WHAT???!!
Where do you get your square files? And which files (hex? goofy?)? And is there a good intro link on angles and such you can point me to? I've studied the technique as much as I could, now need the tools, because you don't become a musician by attending concerts, ya gotta pick up an instrument.Oh I see the skanky to , but clean wood there square chain hard to beat , the RS Pro NK chain pretty sweet thoe ,
One source, https://www.mgpsupply.com/products/vallorbe-double-chisel-bit-files-1Where do you get your square files? And which files (hex? goofy?)? And is there a good intro link on angles and such you can point me to? I've studied the technique as much as I could, now need the tools, because you don't become a musician by attending concerts, ya gotta pick up an instrument.
They have gone up in price 30 percent since I bought them , buy by the dozen it’s cheaper if you use them much,
WI_Hedgehog
You bought a WHAT???!!
$33 for a dozen PFERD round files, and OMG!!! for square!
Most people are still struggling with round cutters and you know this to be a fact. If he had a modded 462 or a ported 400 on sharp square chain this thread wouldn't be here. A radical 361 will pull a 24 square with attitude if you have the chain right and it was all built for top end. The chain type and setup is always going to be a game changer.
He just showed you the cutter.Where do you get your square files? And which files (hex? goofy?)? And is there a good intro link on angles and such you can point me to? I've studied the technique as much as I could, now need the tools, because you don't become a musician by attending concerts, ya gotta pick up an instrument.
I prefer a double bevel, but triangle are good to but flex a little more ,Where do you get your square files? And which files (hex? goofy?)? And is there a good intro link on angles and such you can point me to? I've studied the technique as much as I could, now need the tools, because you don't become a musician by attending concerts, ya gotta pick up an instrument.
