Stress Head crane ops

[treevet]

Aside from the fact that I don't get free rides and climb 50% of my craners old school my ops never tell me where to cut. How would that work? Where I cut is based on where I choke, and they don't tell me where to do that either. You seriously get your hand held through all your crane jobs TV?

Nobody holds my hand on anything anymore at my age son but the crane op has approval/veto on all cuts. When using my crane ofcourse it is just me deciding.

As for the climbing on crane jobs BM.....you are in the minority and living in the stone ages if you climb crane jobs. Maybe the op is a meathead in your case and doesn't want to smash your pretty face into a big stub or something?

That is not "old school"....you don't even know old school you are so new to the biz.....no one ever climbed craners. That is dumb school.

 

[sgreanbeans]

wow, this is a bummer, I have VERY LITTLE crane exp, I have done only 1, and it wasnt real necessary, just made things a little quicker. The only reason I am interested in cranes is speed.We would like to buy one, have been reading this thread to pick up a little knowledge from the pros, only thing im picking up is.........drumroll..............everybody has a different approach and you all think the others are wrong!
Was trying to figure out who I was going to contact, when I bought one, to hire in to teach us, wanted the real thing ya know! Beings every one is wrong/right, guess I will just look it up on youtube!

 

[treevet]

There are some good vids out there and soon to come and maybe already here....ANSI standards.

Best advice if you are already a decent climber is find a salty op that has done much tree work and let HIM be your sensei.

ps....where do you see difference of opinion? All I see is ...."I am number one....aren't I? Please can I be number one? "

 

[tree MDS]

Does anyone consider a crane job climbing?

hook up to the ball and IT takes you to the choke/s..... Ya set the choke/s...... rapel down, staple yourself to the stem, detach from the ball, maybe stick a spike in here and there......, crane op tells you where to cut..... make a cut.....

repeat process. :monkey:

That's why a 6'6 guy or a 6'7 250 lb man can do it all day/week/year/s long.

Once you do it a hundred or a thousand times and no boo boo's the fear factor becomes something like a CPA's or burger flipper's. :dunno:

I haven't done enough crane jobs to really be an authority or anything.. but this is generally what I've surmised so far..

.. of course anything taken to the extreme, like in oldirty's position, surely has its finer points.

 

[treemandan]

I haven't done enough crane jobs to really be an authority or anything.. but this is generally what I've surmised so far..

.. of course anything taken to the extreme, like in oldirty's position, surely has its finer points.

The Catholics have been getting the nuns from the rectory to do it. The Father does bless the hook and brings sandwiches for lunch.

 

[treemandan]

wow, this is a bummer, I have VERY LITTLE crane exp, I have done only 1, and it wasnt real necessary, just made things a little quicker. The only reason I am interested in cranes is speed.We would like to buy one, have been reading this thread to pick up a little knowledge from the pros, only thing im picking up is.........drumroll..............everybody has a different approach and you all think the others are wrong!
Was trying to figure out who I was going to contact, when I bought one, to hire in to teach us, wanted the real thing ya know! Beings every one is wrong/right, guess I will just look it up on youtube!

It puts in all in a pile by the chipper so that's a plus too.

 

[tree MDS]

The Catholics have been getting the nuns from the rectory to do it. The Father does bless the hook and brings sandwiches for lunch.

Hahahaha... Gidget the Flying Nun and oldirty face off for the ultimate crane battle royal!

 

[treemandan]

Nobody holds my hand on anything anymore at my age son but the crane op has approval/veto on all cuts. When using my crane ofcourse it is just me deciding.

As for the climbing on crane jobs BM.....you are in the minority and living in the stone ages if you climb crane jobs. Maybe the op is a meathead in your case and doesn't want to smash your pretty face into a big stub or something?

That is not "old school"....you don't even know old school you are so new to the biz.....no one ever climbed craners. That is dumb school.

I first started tying tips and when I had to do it all myself it was a bummer. Since I first started on a tag team crane crew I am naturally biased towards it so when I see and extra groundy wacthing me climb to the top again to set a sling as the boom is coming back I wonder " Why isn't that mother####er riding that hook up?"
That's what OD needs about now, his own tip tyer. :greenchainsaw: we would never hear the end of it.

 

[treemandan]

And as I wait for my PI infected Newbie to show up ( he's out cutting grass), I will explain something:
Sizes matters. And in all aspects, in this aspect we will use the size of a man. I, for instance, am small. The Dan weighs in at 165, some of it in the belly, much of it in the head.
Anyway, I know this has much to do with how one is going to handle a tree. I believe that there is a difference between how a bigger man approaches a tree. You have two different sized people, when looking at the same object, they see if in their perspecetive. Example: A bigger/taller man would be able to walk the same distance faster than a smaller. Also think about reach.
Some might offer the difference is negligable but if it weren't for negligable differences...
These differences are made up in other others and both have pros and cons. Manipulation is the key to making it up and that starts with a thought. And that thought is...






































Jeez, I hope this Newbie shows soon.

 

[treemandan]

Well, he ain't here yet.


Well, I do have to say that having a stressed headed crane op is really not what you want. It actually sounds like something you might want to get to the bottom of and make it a priority.
Don't see to much crane op bashing amongst all the other pleasantries we have here. I have worked with idiots but they never got assumed I wouldn't bounce a beener of their skull if they started with some attitude and really, it didn't matter how big they were. Big guys can think to, they can think " that little guy is going come stick that saw in me if I don't cool it". I dunno, mainly what I have seen was just dumb.
I would have to figure out why your guy was hollering Reg and if it wasn't going to stop I would have. Send him back. I would not go up with a guy all stressed out, dumb I can take sort of.

 

[treemandan]

Blakes its something not riding the hook doing your TD's. Sucks. I am sorry to hear. State law or company policy?
But all in all, once you are in the tree, you start your way back up once the first one is going away. Its lonely.
Some trees can work ya.
Reg, you are to easy on the ground crew, hell, your too easy on the GROUND! When are we going see you let something loose? Pull a Dan Murphy or something for us will ya?
Intersting bag for the slings. Nice , very nice rig on the hook you have. I have a bag, its blue too, full of rope slings and spiders I often use on crane work. I use a main sling too. You know what its like working with a good crane op but like me you don't always have the talent making you look good........... LIKE OD HAS! Ah ha.
Allright, newbie called, I am on his schedule, its not bad.

 

[tree MDS]

I had a crane guy that was sort of stressed out one time I guess you could say.

The day started off with him showing up and saying how pleased he was with the fact that we were all white. He said he was sick of treeguys sticking him out there with mexicans that cant speak the language. Then we get this huge pick down in the road (half tree) and my loser help couldn't process it for ####.. almost took a lamp of this stone pillar (had to bend it back straight). It was awesome! Dude was throwing his arms up and yelling at my losers for me pretty much! Guy was actually the best I ever used, in my limited experience with cranes that is..

 

[oldirty]

listen to me you stupid prick. you dumb fat ignorant horses ass. i am on a crane crew because i am the best climber this company has. i am the MAIN climber at this company. if something needs to be done manually they ask me to do it. when an emergency tree comes up i get the call. anything that needs to be done i do. i cant stress that enough to your donut stuffing ignorant ass.

have you called the office yet to verify? have you called to find out? you are the stupid #### in this situation fat body. i put pictures and videos up of proof of what i do on this site. proof. where this proof of you climbing?

anything i have said on this site has the ability to be proven whereas you have yet to show a damn thing.

go to angieslist and look us up. all those pages of happiness is some proof of the effort.

other than stuffing food in your face what else you do, hack?

dude. you are dime a dozen. you get that? nothing you do separates you from the rest of the crews around you.

 

[beowulf343]

Lol, wow, slow day for the crane guys today? Surprised to see you around at noon on a friday od. Three day weekend here, then 70 hour weeks for the next couple.

 

[oldirty]

and on top of you doing absolutely nothing to distance yourself from other companies you are slob with no skill.

how come your fat ass got let go from the steel game? don't say layoffs. anyone who has skill will always have a job. bet your work screeches to ahalt in the winter too. seems to happen to the hacks around here too.

#### you eddie.

and while you are ####ing yourself eddie call up my boss. ask about me. call up the operations manager as well, you stupid prick. all you gotta do is make a call and be proven wrong. it really is that easy.

never did meth either, fatboy.

 

[treevet]

And as I wait for my PI infected Newbie to show up ( he's out cutting grass), I will explain something:
Sizes matters. And in all aspects, in this aspect we will use the size of a man. I, for instance, am small. The Dan weighs in at 165, some of it in the belly, much of it in the head.
Anyway, I know this has much to do with how one is going to handle a tree. I believe that there is a difference between how a bigger man approaches a tree. You have two different sized people, when looking at the same object, they see if in their perspecetive. Example: A bigger/taller man would be able to walk the same distance faster than a smaller. Also think about reach.
Some might offer the difference is negligable but if it weren't for negligable differences...
These differences are made up in other others and both have pros and cons. Manipulation is the key to making it up and that starts with a thought. And that thought is...

I reckon those shrooms you were musing about, and you crossed paths...eh Dano?

Tell your hives/poison ivy covered gm I said "high" when he comes in :hmm3grin2orange:

(we workin across the road last 2 days....home for lunch to visit THE crane thread haha)

 

[oldirty]

no wulf. sitting on the phone in the truck eating lunch. spouting some hate off to Asites resident polesmoker. but i just heard the crane fire up so i gotsta go. be safe next week.

101. go #### yourself.

 

[Blakesmaster]

Oh man. This is good. Wish I could stick around. But my pretty face has gotta go sell a job.

 

[Blakesmaster]

Nobody holds my hand on anything anymore at my age son but the crane op has approval/veto on all cuts. When using my crane ofcourse it is just me deciding.

As for the climbing on crane jobs BM.....you are in the minority and living in the stone ages if you climb crane jobs. Maybe the op is a meathead in your case and doesn't want to smash your pretty face into a big stub or something?

That is not "old school"....you don't even know old school you are so new to the biz.....no one ever climbed craners. That is dumb school.

It is what it is in this state, bud. Over the boarder I can ride all day long. From what I understand a lot of the legality issues have to do with the OSHA inspector that shows up and what he feels like dinging you for. Some ops take the risk that they won't show up and if they do, they won't get you on riding the ball, some won't take that risk. It is what it is.

Oddly enough, I've grown accustomed to it and it's not that bad. I start up the tree as the crane is setting up and find my TIP. A lot more to consider on which one you select because the CO still needs room to move the work away from not just you, but also your climbline. It took some time to adjust, but I'm getting used to it. Depending on the tree this can be almost as quick as riding which I think is what Dano was touching on. While the crane is moving the piece you just cut away you climb to your next choke point, rap from there, make your cut and it starts all over again. You might need to bring up your geezer walker in order to keep up though. lol

Sure, on a serious monster with a big spread this WILL slow down progress but it's still better than a bucket. Another bad scenario for this is a bunch of smaller single stems that you now have to climb all the way up. It's not an ideal attack, but you play the hand you're dealt.

 

[treevet]

It is what it is in this state, bud. Over the boarder I can ride all day long. From what I understand a lot of the legality issues have to do with the OSHA inspector that shows up and what he feels like dinging you for. Some ops take the risk that they won't show up and if they do, they won't get you on riding the ball, some won't take that risk. It is what it is.

Oddly enough, I've grown accustomed to it and it's not that bad. I start up the tree as the crane is setting up and find my TIP. A lot more to consider on which one you select because the CO still needs room to move the work away from not just you, but also your climbline. It took some time to adjust, but I'm getting used to it. Depending on the tree this can be almost as quick as riding which I think is what Dano was touching on. While the crane is moving the piece you just cut away you climb to your next choke point, rap from there, make your cut and it starts all over again. You might need to bring up your geezer walker in order to keep up though. lol

Sure, on a serious monster with a big spread this WILL slow down progress but it's still better than a bucket. Another bad scenario for this is a bunch of smaller single stems that you now have to climb all the way up. It's not an ideal attack, but you play the hand you're dealt.

Wonder if they play that game if you the owner op.

No need for geezer walker on spikes my boy. Won some pole climb contests back in the day and just to stay sharp I still do 3 sets of 400 lb. squats every couple of days that would ensure that I would do way more than "keep up" with your novice attempts lol.