Which of these Solo 681s looks fastest and strongest?

[STIHLTHEDEERE]

you know this whole thread has made me think of something else. i bet there are a few "new" super high performance ms261 owners,with 800.00-900.00 dollars in those saws............... scratching their heads and wondering??????? what if........just a thought

 

[CentaurG2]

Sorry we threw a rock through a window. The window was on a train that went off the tracks and crashed terribly but I guess we were the ones that ruined it.

For the record, there was no discussion...only accusations.

Must be sniffing too much acrylamide. Train wrecks do make for good publicity in a Madonna type sort of way. Also, does not seem like too much else is going on around here other than weird colors. Carry on!

 

[PB]

Must be sniffing too much acrylamide. Train wrecks do make for good publicity in a Madonna type sort of way. Also, does not seem like too much else is going on around here other than weird colors. Carry on!

That stuff doesn't smell, but it does taste good on toast.

 

[edisto]

And that's exactly what this thread was started for.

After Woodchucker's post, I think the record now is straight. Nice of you to give him the opportunity.

'chucker...you are a far better man than I!

And as for Copsey, doing that cylinder out of your own time shows a lot of real character.

 

[mowoodchopper]

Snelling sux,and so does his work!

LMAO

 

[HARRY BARKER]

ahh,VERY well said.........NOW,THIS folks is the TRUE BRAD SNELLING we all know. gee,what a guy,what a christian?,sorry to be the one to say it,what a low life P.O.S. what a complete fake,phonie,and most of all hopocrite.

OK then.that pretty much sums it up!

 

[blsnelling]

when building a saw for some one far away that cant be there in person to pick it up. i think it would be nice to get a before any mod timed cut video and an after mods timed cut video in the same kind of wood cant that most all cookie cutters use ( poplar,pine). that way you can compare your saw to other saws in similar conditions ,and should be done with off the roll chain that way chains not the deciding factor. most folks know what kind of gains there should be in a given saw and this would let you know if your saw is up to snuff or just a ground on run of the mill firwood saw. just a thought. and if you want to know which saws faster put them side by side in the same wood ,with same bar and chain ,same operator. otherwise its not a real honest side by side comparison.

I've done that more times than I can count.

Woodchuck, excellent post, you've seem to be pretty humble over a deal that prolly cost you 250.00 plus shipping both ways plus the cost of a new jug, can't say I'd be near the man you have about it. In a way it's one of life's cheaper lessons.

Jason didn't buy a port job from me. He bought the saw, already ported.

Eric built the saw for free. I've said that once before in this thread already. I TRIED to pay him SOMETHING. But he sternly would not accept any money for it. He fully felt that I shouldn't have to pay him anything. I felt pretty bad about it but he assured me not to.

I'm trying my hardest here not to cheerlead. But honestly - what kind of a bad guy does that?? None that I'm aware of.....

And as for Copsey, doing that cylinder out of your own time shows a lot of real character.

I've ported more than one saw for free for my closest friends. I applaud Eric for doing that. Friends are valuable.

I hope today's Sunday Sermon did you some good...LOL

Matter of fact, it did. But it started before that with IndianSprings post, I think it was. I should have never started this thread, and I appologize for that. I'm hesitant to even say that, because I know some of you will laugh me to scorn. It's still the right thing to do.

 

[WoodChuck'r]

I've ported more than one saw for free for my closest friends. I applaud Eric for doing that. Friends are valuable.

I wasn't friends with Eric when he offered (I am now, but that has little to do with this). He offered to do it the day I shook his hand. The only knowledge he had of me was from the few PMs he and I shared on RS and the reading he did of my posts on AS.


After my last post this is all you have to say?? Think of the people who have tried ripping you apart for much less and you give them all kinds of responses. Personally I'd like to see you quote my last post and give me a full response. As respectful as I have been through this whole ordeal I feel you owe that to me.

 

[STIHLTHEDEERE]

I wasn't friends with Eric when he offered (I am now, but that has little to do with this). He offered to do it the day I shook his hand. The only knowledge he had of me was from the few PMs he and I shared on RS and the reading he did of my posts on AS.


After my last post this is all you have to say?? Think of the people who have tried ripping you apart for much less and you give them all kinds of responses. Personally I'd like to see you quote my last post and give me a full response. As respectful as I have been through this whole ordeal I feel you owe that to me.

very humble to say the least..........but one thing you forgot,HE is brad snelling,and he doesn't owe anyone anything.

 

[weimedog]

I wasn't friends with Eric when he offered (I am now, but that has little to do with this). He offered to do it the day I shook his hand. The only knowledge he had of me was from the few PMs he and I shared on RS and the reading he did of my posts on AS.


After my last post this is all you have to say?? Think of the people who have tried ripping you apart for much less and you give them all kinds of responses. Personally I'd like to see you quote my last post and give me a full response. As respectful as I have been through this whole ordeal I feel you owe that to me.

Actually...this is a logical end to this please. Go back to music and hope this fades thru the archives to oblivion. Nothing good is going to come out of any more words wasted on this,,unless its adding musical diversity or something else positive. Time to move on.

 

[weimedog]

YouTube - Carrie Underwood - So Small

 

[THALL10326]

I've done that more times than I can count.


Jason didn't buy a port job from me. He bought the saw, already ported.





I've ported more than one saw for free for my closest friends. I applaud Eric for doing that. Friends are valuable.


Matter of fact, it did. But it started before that with IndianSprings post, I think it was. I should have never started this thread, and I appologize for that. I'm hesitant to even say that, because I know some of you will laugh me to scorn. It's still the right thing to do.

Well I'm not laughing at you but your correct, you should have never started this thread. Brad I'm older than you and maybe with the extra years I might be a tad wiser, might I said. I want to give you something and just maybe in it you will see a light that you really need man. Check this out and take it with you. Ponder on it and see if you can use it for good deeds in the future.

I'm in the sales and repair biz. I repair a awful lot of equipment. I've learned over the years when you make a mistake and it comes back don't go defence, just resolve it. Recently repaired a EZ starter rope assmbly on a saw. The whole assembly is held together by a one little snap ring. I repaired the thing, gave it back to the owner and all was done. 3 weeks later the owner and the saw came back, the starter assmbly isn't working. I opened it up on the spot and found that little snap ring had come off. Owner says why do you think that happened. I go I don't know, the only thing I can think of is I didn't install it properly the first time. I put it back together and triple checked it this time. All was fine. He could have screamed you dumbazz or raised alittle hell, I couldn't fault him if he did. What did he say, I appreciate your honesty and he went away happy. People do not mind a mistake if the person that made it is open and honest, admits it and resolves it.

Ponder on that paragragh Brad and I can almost promise you over 90% of the fueds you have on here will cease.

I'm grabbing my Martin now and I'm gonna soon start writing songs Brad. If you don't take what I just gave you and mature with it your name is gonna be in a number one selling song called "I Tried but He Just Wouldn't Listen". Yup I'm feeling jolly today. Be glad. If I was feeling crabby the song title would be "Told You So ya Big Dummy" ,LOLOL

 

[blsnelling]

For the few that don't know, that man was me. Yes, the guy who cheerleaded my head off for Brad in January of 2010. I've learned quite a bit since then. Most know that this was the first ported saw I ever got my hands on. Yes I did run it at a GTG in PA, an yes I did run it against a FULLY STOCK 681. That 681 belongs to a good dude named Nate. It was not Eric's saw. I'm not going to get into the fully elongated story (again) but Nate's saw was faster - same bar, same chain, same wood.
Sorry, I just don't trust anything involving Eric.

Yes, Eric offered to build the saw for me provided I bought a new P&C. I did so and sent the saw to him after I broke it in with about 12 tanks of fuel. The stock version of my 681 was more powerful than it was with the Brad cylinder. Clearly more powerful. I ran probably 50 tanks of fuel through the Brad cylinder - I got to know the saw rather well - running it stock I really noticed a difference in how the saw performed. Changing it back to stock blew my mind even more than the saw being beat by Nate's stocker.
The comparison was admitely made 50 tanks of fuel and months later after the saw was bought from me. The videos you have show a different story. 75% of the viewers agree.

I got the saw back from Eric in the early part of December and dang, it just plain rocks. And yes, Eric built the saw for free. I've said that once before in this thread already. I TRIED to pay him SOMETHING. But he sternly would not accept any money for it. He fully felt that I shouldn't have to pay him anything. I felt pretty bad about it but he assured me not to.

I'm trying my hardest here not to cheerlead. But honestly - what kind of a bad guy does that?? None that I'm aware of....
It all depends on who you want to befriend.

I feel I can't thank him enough for what he did. His response though is usually "Thanks for the flowers Jason but it isn't necessary", lol.

I have kept cool with Brad about this whole thing as I don't see much reason to get angry about it. Most others seem to think I'm out of my farking mind and I have every right in the world to be truly pi$$ed off. I'm just not that kind of guy. I made my decisions, and dealt with it all the best way, the only way I knew how.
I was never given a chance to make it right. Jason did inform me of what was going on. I offered to make it right, but Jason kindly refused.

Yes Brad that was I. I have some seriously mixed feelings about what you did. You say that you sent me that whole PM conversation you had with Eric on RS to "show me Eric's true colors". I don't know. I have always treated you kindly, even after this blown out of proportion ridiculous 681 Saga and felt that you handled yourself rather well over it. But I'm starting to believe that it's not Eric's true colors you have shown me, I believe you have shown me yours.
I did that simply for the same reason I started this thread. You have told me that Eric has never said anything bad about you. I wanted you to see how he actually treats me. I wanted Darin to know the truth about him as well. I admit I shouldn't have done this either, and appologize to all involved, including you Eric. I'm definately not worried about the competition. He can have all the port jobs he wants.

Since you and I spoke on the phone last April, I've always been concerned about this eventually exploding. I never wanted to see this happen. You know this as I've mentioned it to you many more times than once, and you even agreed each and every time that you felt the same way. Then you go and send me your PM conversation with Eric and start this thread. I know we've been cool in the past Brad, but your recent actions really have me wondering......
Jason, you were the first to mention this saw publically. I just did so far less friendly.

Sending me that PM conversation (as far as I'm concerned) was the lowest of the low. Big disappointment Brad. Big disappointment.
I'm sorry.

I wasn't friends with Eric when he offered (I am now, but that has little to do with this). He offered to do it the day I shook his hand. The only knowledge he had of me was from the few PMs he and I shared on RS and the reading he did of my posts on AS.


After my last post this is all you have to say?? Think of the people who have tried ripping you apart for much less and you give them all kinds of responses. Personally I'd like to see you quote my last post and give me a full response. As respectful as I have been through this whole ordeal I feel you owe that to me.

I thought maybe less was more at this point. I'm not interested in perpetuating this any further. I'll simply be repeating what I already said. I will make a few comments in bold above.

 

[Cliff R]

Just some general comments as my business is working in the high performance automotive industry.

In any and all cases, we do our very best to make sure the customer is satisfied, and their expectations are met. We will do many hundreds of jobs and never have a single problem. We don't hear too much about most jobs, and consider no news good news. I still get some positive feedback on occassion, but that is not the trend these days.

I can tell everyone reading this absolutely and for certain, you can do 100 jobs correctly, with good results and never hear a thing. Just screw one thing up, and you are going to hear about it at least 100 times. Sometimes your "screw up" isn't even your solely fault, as in the high performance industry there are many "players" at work, and we don't always have full control of all the parameters or test criteria.

Even so, one thing I make certain that happens with ALL of our customers, is that I do my very best to make sure folks don't have any room to talk bad about me. Even with this mind set, there are simply occassions when you are going to get singed a bit, and sometimes flamed as well.

Not everything I'm saying fully applies to the circumstances revolving around this thread, but having this sort of thing played out in public Forum for coming up on 400 responses, it just doesn't do anyone any good in the big scheme of things.....FWIW......Cliff

 

[THALL10326]

Actually...this is a logical end to this please. Go back to music and hope this fades thru the archives to oblivion. Nothing good is going to come out of any more words wasted on this,,unless its adding musical diversity or something else positive. Time to move on.

Hell yeah, music is good for the soul, I love me music. I sit sad however knowing my Martin has so many beautifull sounds in it that I can't make it do,GRRRRR,LOL

 

[blsnelling]

Well I'm not laughing at you but your correct, you should have never started this thread. Brad I'm older than you and maybe with the extra years I might be a tad wiser, might I said. I want to give you something and just maybe in it you will see a light that you really need man. Check this out and take it with you. Ponder on it and see if you can use it for good deeds in the future.

I'm in the sales and repair biz. I repair a awful lot of equipment. I've learned over the years when you make a mistake and it comes back don't go defence, just resolve it. Recently repaired a EZ starter rope assmbly on a saw. The whole assembly is held together by a one little snap ring. I repaired the thing, gave it back to the owner and all was done. 3 weeks later the owner and the saw came back, the starter assmbly isn't working. I opened it up on the spot and found that little snap ring had come off. Owner says why do you think that happened. I go I don't know, the only thing I can think of is I didn't install it properly the first time. I put it back together and triple checked it this time. All was fine. He could have screamed you dumbazz or raised alittle hell, I couldn't fault him if he did. What did he say, I appreciate your honesty and he went away happy. People do not mind a mistake if the person that made it is open and honest, admits it and resolves it.

Ponder on that paragragh Brad and I can almost promise you over 90% of the fueds you have on here will cease.

I'm grabbing my Martin now and I'm gonna soon start writing songs Brad. If you don't take what I just gave you and mature with it your name is gonna be in a number one selling song called "I Tried but He Just Wouldn't Listen". Yup I'm feeling jolly today. Be glad. If I was feeling crabby the song title would be "Told You So ya Big Dummy" ,LOLOL

Good advice Tommy. I appreciate it. I offered to make this right but never had the chance. But like I said, the saw is only a symptom, not the real issue.

 

[Jacob J.]

I've learned over the years when you make a mistake and it comes back don't go defence, just resolve it.

Yep- dwell in the solution, don't dwell in the problem.

 

[THALL10326]

Good advice Tommy. I appreciate it. I offered to make this right but never had the chance. But like I said, the saw is only a symptom, not the real issue.

Well quit offering, quit with the defensive attitude, hell just let it go. You have a awful lot of pride, too much can really get to ya. Seems this Eric guy out did ya on WC's saw, ok, so be it, its not the end of the world, its just a dayumm ole chainsaw. I like to think I'm about as good repair man as anyone in Stihl. I know however Lakeside and some of my best freinds down at Stihl could eat my lunch anyday of the week. Even so I try to do the best I can. You can't win em all man. Sometimes you can't right a wrong either no matter how hard you want to or try. Whenever a person's pride gets so great he can't say to another person "you win", they have some work to do on that pride. Get to work.

Lets see, I'll start this song with a G chord, no wait, Johnny Cash would start it in A minor. Nextime your around a man with a guitar Brad ask him to play you a A minor chord, your going to hate me the second you hear it,LOLOLOLOL, messing with ya....

 

[WoodChuck'r]

I offered to make this right but never had the chance.

I just procrastinated and never got around to sending you the cylinder. I was never angry. Once Eric offered to build the saw my mind was made up that I wanted him to do it. But the saw and the builder mumbo jumbo is not what bothered me, you know this, everyone knows this. It's the way you behaved with PMing me your conversation with Eric and then starting a thread like this. It was the way you handled yourself Brad. Your recent actions spoke for themselves. I know you just said you're sorry to me, but those two things really put a bad taste in my mouth.

I still have the cylinder. It's been sitting in the same spot since June. I wanted to give it to Dan so he could pass it along to you this past Christmas break. I don't know now. I think I might wanna keep it. I'll never use it, but it's built up some sentimental value for me these days and it seems a little tough to part with.

If / when I get rid of it Brad, you'll be the first to know as it will be headed in your direction.



I strongly suggest that this thread gets locked now please. I'm off to go kick it with the new Dr. Dre.

 

[THALL10326]

Yep- dwell in the solution, don't dwell in the problem.

No kidding man. The last thing a person with a problem wants is another problem. Get it resolved ASAP and move on. I've swollowed my pride many times knowing what I did was 100% right yet the customer screwed it up again. I fix it ASAP and let it go. Course now if he screws it up again then its on baby,:hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange: