Echo CS-500P

[mweba]

:msp_thumbsup:

 

[MN Ripper]

Edge is the air filter the automotive style, felt box style or?

Thanks for posting some pictures. :msp_thumbup:

 

[nmurph]

Doesn't matter, its how fast they cut and we've been seeing vids of Echo saws cutting good lately. Steve

Sure it does.

 

[Justsaws]

If it stays together and has any piss to it at all that Echo will sell, sell and sell.

The number of folks looking to step away from Stihl and Husqvarna right now is HUGE. Hopefully Echo put it together right.

At $400.00 out the door it would not need to have all that much piss to it, 10.7#.

 

[mountainlake]

Sure it does.

If published numbers matter, my CS510 and CS520 Echo saws cut faster than the 3.8hp Stihl 029 and MS290 saws any day of the week how much HP do they have. If fact I've saw a vid on here of a CS450 (45cc) cutting faster than a MS290, does it have more than 3.8 hp. What cuts faster a 3.8hp MS290 or a little less hp 346xp or a 3.75 hp MS261. Steve

 

[STIHLTHEDEERE]

if it stays together and has any piss to it at all that echo will sell, sell and sell.

The number of folks looking to step away from stihl and husqvarna right now is huge. Hopefully echo put it together right.

At $400.00 out the door it would not need to have all that much piss to it, 10.7#.

stihls' sales numbers sure don't reflect that statement.........and i own a few echos' myself

 

[pgg]

I hear the loggers down here are gonna ditch their 390's and 066's for the amazing new Echos

 

[nmurph]

If published numbers matter, my CS510 and CS520 Echo saws cut faster than the 3.8hp Stihl 029 and MS290 saws any day of the week how much HP do they have. If fact I've saw a vid on here of a CS450 (45cc) cutting faster than a MS290, does it have more than 3.8 hp. What cuts faster a 3.8hp MS290 or a little less hp 346xp or a 3.75 hp MS261. Steve

A little defensive, are we? If those numbers are accurate, and an operator can keep the saw running at that point, then there is no way the lower hp will cut faster.

 

[pgg]

Echo are also claiming their little 360T as a 1.6kw saw. The same power as the U.S. model MS200T. Echo would never mislead anyone would they?

 

[mountainlake]

Echo are also claiming their little 360T as a 1.6kw saw. The same power as the U.S. model MS200T. Echo would never mislead anyone would they?

Stihl would never mislead anyone either with thier overrated MS290 would they?
Your right for once, according to published numbers over in NZ

Echo's new model

CS350TES

35.8cc
1.65 kw
3.5 KG

Stihl 200T
35.2 cc
1.6 kw
3.6 KG

According to the numbers you'ld all be buying the CS350, I don't think so. As I've always said published number are just that. Steve

 

[mountainlake]

A little defensive, are we? If those numbers are accurate, and an operator can keep the saw running at that point, then there is no way the lower hp will cut faster.

Which would mean the Echo saws have more HP when they cut faster. Not defensive just the facts. Steve

 

[mountainlake]

If it stays together and has any piss to it at all that Echo will sell, sell and sell.

The number of folks looking to step away from Stihl and Husqvarna right now is HUGE. Hopefully Echo put it together right.

At $400.00 out the door it would not need to have all that much piss to it, 10.7#.

I don't think there's to many Stihl and Husky pro saw users that are looking to step away but ones that buy homeowner saws are as both companys cheapen them up every year. Steve

 

[nmurph]

Which would mean the Echo saws have more HP when they cut faster. Not defensive just the facts. Steve

Maybe, or there were other factors at work.

 

[miking]

I don't think there's to many Stihl and Husky pro saw users that are looking to step away but ones that buy homeowner saws are as both companys cheapen them up every year. Steve

That's exactly why I stepped away from Stihl. When I worked for other outfits, my bosses supplied 250s and 260s for thinning jobs and each successive saw just wasn't like it's predecessor. When I began my own business I was fully committed to going with the 260 and when I choked on the price tag I checked out the Echo saws and found them to be everything the Stihls were and more, all for considerably less money. Funny story: when I complained about the Stihls before, my old boss threatened to by me an Echo, and being a hardcore stihly back then, I shut up but in hindsight, I wish he had because I probably would have had a 510 or 520.

 

[flimflam]

If published numbers matter, my CS510 and CS520 Echo saws cut faster than the 3.8hp Stihl 029 and MS290 saws any day of the week how much HP do they have. If fact I've saw a vid on here of a CS450 (45cc) cutting faster than a MS290, does it have more than 3.8 hp. What cuts faster a 3.8hp MS290 or a little less hp 346xp or a 3.75 hp MS261. Steve

This guy I swear has a hard on for STIHL. He's a walking propaganda machine for Echo. Why dont you make fair comparisons? You always compare a modified Echo to a stock STIHL. You never compare apples to apples. Stock for stock, that MS 290 will be more powerful than any of the Echo's you mentioned, modified for modified, same deal. Just retire.

 

[mountainlake]

This guy I swear has a hard on for STIHL. He's a walking propaganda machine for Echo. Why dont you make fair comparisons? You always compare a modified Echo to a stock STIHL. You never compare apples to apples. Stock for stock, that MS 290 will be more powerful than any of the Echo's you mentioned, modified for modified, same deal. Just retire.

I still have a couple of stock CS 510 saws. When both the CS520 and MS290 are stock the CS520 cuts faster and the Echo will wake up a lot more with a muff modd that the MS290 will. Watch some of the vids on here. There's nothing wrong with pro Stihl saws except the high cost, homeowner ones don't cut the mustard and get worse every year. Steve

 

[rmotoman]

I have an Echo 8000 and I have ran my brother's 2070 (371). Both are rated at 3.9kw. My guess is the 8000 is about 20% faster than the Jonsered plus I don't have to deal with the dinky powerband.

I also have a friend that just bought a 272 Husky. After running my 8000 the first words were WOW that thing cuts fast!

My other brother runs Stihls at work and Echos for his own firewood. He always says there is no difference between them. If there is you need a stopwatch to tell the difference.

 

[wyk]

I hear the loggers down here are gonna ditch their 390's and 066's for the amazing new Echos

I'm not a logger, and fortunately I am not in NZ where I would have to tolerate pgg's ignorant vitriol face to face, but I have both a 385xp and an Echo cs-520. The Arborist I was working with yesterday was impressed with how much more power my Echo had than his ms260. At 10.6oz, the new Echo would be a great saw if it had the same power. I am curious to see how it turns out.

 

[wyk]

A little defensive, are we? If those numbers are accurate, and an operator can keep the saw running at that point, then there is no way the lower hp will cut faster.

I don't think it's fair to label his response as purely defensive. We all know there is a difference between marketing and the actual product you might receive, regardless of manufacture.

 

[nmurph]

I don't think it's fair to label his response as purely defensive. We all know there is a difference between marketing and the actual product you might receive, regardless of manufacture.

Just tweaking them; The Echo throng is easy, and Steve, especially so.

I agree that if the power is there, Echo might have a winner. The weight is a full pound lighter than a 346. But the sideways balance might not be as good (J/K ST).