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I completely agree with lxt's response in its entirety. When I first saw the title "Extreme Precision Felling" I was expecting something really spectacular. After watching the video, the title is laughable at best. Extreme Precision Felling? Compared to what? Your first summer doing tree work?

In my experience, its been the older, out-of-shape, lazier bucket queens that are placing emphasis on felling rather than limbing out a tree.

You fell a whole tree and you've got a giant mess to deal with. Limbs stabbed into the ground, damaged turf, compromising the crumb of the soil, etc. There's nothing safe about cutting wood that has that much tension from the weight of the rest of the tree on it. There's nothing easy about fighting with the twisted mess of brush from a felled tree and, unless you're cleaning up with a skidloader, (in which case, you had tons of room to drop the tree), the cleanup takes a great deal longer. But you didn't have to climb it -- so that makes it all worth it, right?

While I enjoy watching videos of treework, representing this as Extreme Precision is a joke to anyone but a 1st year tree worker -- maybe that's why treeslayer is so impressed with you lol.

We all have our own way of doing things though, so whatever. I enjoy climbing, and its working for me, and you're felling and that's working for you.

To a newbie, your information should be better than a lack of any instruction, but if he is your intended audience, you may want to take the time to explain the terms "compartmentalization" and what "destabilization" of a tree is. Otherwise, it just makes it seem like you are trying to use terms to fit into a higher skill level than the work that is presented in your videos.

That's not to say that you are not good at felling trees. To me, its just lazy, and shows a complete disregard for a customer's property. "We'll have our landscaper come fix all this turf damage for you." (Which is stupid, because that's going to increase the amount of time it takes to get paid, customers waiting to pay you till you finished the landscape repairs) Try explaining to your customer how its perfectly ok that you're putting his home at risk of having a tree fall on it because you'd rather fell it than climb it and rig it down safely.

If your competition caught on -- they'd be out badmouthing you (like you do to them). They could probably easily steal a great deal of work from you by offering your customers the premise that Murphy is out taking giant risks by felling trees. Would you rather have Murphy fell a tree by your home and risk something going wrong, or would you rather have me climb the tree and bring smaller peices down safely?

I hope that doesn't happen to you, because from most other considerations (aside from leaving stubs where its unnecessary) you do appear to be above the hack jobs out there -- safety gear, taking the time to plan and discuss the project, good equipment, etc.

I do admire the fact that you've taken a portion of time and initiative to do the one thing many many many other tree guys neglect to do though -- research. Not saying your research is all correct, but at least you are doing it to some extent.

I'm suprised by the fact that none of your videos show you with a cast on your arm, having broken it several times patting yourself on the back, but of course now you probably have treeslayer doing it for you. hehehehe

I think we all need to pat ourselves on the back. I also think your definition of lazy, well, #### it, I am lazy then. Its 6 way one, half a dozen the next and to read what you just wrote one would get the idea you know that but for some reason don't want to admit it.
 
Danno, what got me in this Biz was the need for a job.........I was gonna be a rock star! but then I found I really liked this kinda work & went at it 100% learning all I could, if it was a fluke for you?........then that is a true shame, I know many who do it just for the money & to make a living, but to truly be good one must have a love for their job & want to obtain knowledge about it.

I along with many others have put my time in & have done things that now I would second guess.....but what we dont do is make videos & promote ourselves as better than thou!!! I give Murph credit for putting up his vid`s, but........dont lie about reading a book thats not on the market yet to make yourself look good & that is where my problem with him is..........to the newbie & un-trained tree guy wannabes...Murph looks like a pro, but from a pro standpoint Murph is just the average guy doing tree work!

Yes we all think we are the best, but many are humble to know they`re not, cause if we were we would all have ITCC trophies & be paid to wear our favorite brands shirts & so on! pertaining to Murph I dont wish to engage him in ongoing ridicule or bash him, I just dont think we need 500 videos of a guy doing average work, work done in a reckless manner, etc... he turns his vids into a teaching series......like we need that? like I have said...........why dont he open up a school & teach if he is so dam good?

most post pics or vids to show what they did that day or at some point (even you) but he is the only guy who thinks he needs to teach everybody & that he is the best, literally!! I believe Murph loves his job, But I think he loves himself better & his arrogance, lies & exaggerations are right up there with what AA posts..............I have no need or want for that kinda crap & will call em out every time....!





LXT................
 
Everybody says that. Whether its true or not doesn't change the fact that every human alive needs to feed his ego.

Dano is not far off... anyone remember Maslows hierarchy of needs?

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I believe without our egos we wouldn't do the jobs we do, nobody in their right mind would do what I have done. To make it clearer at what Im trying to say is; I've mentally said goodbye to anyone Ive loved and cared about and then made the cut anyway knowing if it didn't go perfect i could die.

As for Murph I don't know the guy, but if I were to guess, I think he has had very few teachers in his time, and is self taught. Myself I've had hundreds of teachers and I've taken from them what they could give me and blending them in with my own ideas to create my way.

What was up with that notch? The one cut into the maple that got pulled over with the machine that broke off at the bottom. I could swear I've read in many publications that they should be 1/3 the diameter. I think I've even read that in almost every new saw manual I've ever read.
 
What was up with that notch? The one cut into the maple that got pulled over with the machine that broke off at the bottom. I could swear I've read in many publications that they should be 1/3 the diameter. I think I've even read that in almost every new saw manual I've ever read.

DO you have any idea why to cut a notch 1/3 the diameter of the tree??? Do you always do whatever it is you read in a book without thinking about it? If we were limited to doing what's in the stihl owners' manual, where would be?
 
Sex is not on that list enough. Timber falling isn't either. The list is bull####.

Your wrong on both counts Sex is clearly listed under Love/Belonging and under Physiological. Timber felling would be covered though not as obvious but under Self Actualization and listed as Problem Solving.
 
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DO you have any idea why to cut a notch 1/3 the diameter of the tree??? Do you always do whatever it is you read in a book without thinking about it? If we were limited to doing what's in the stihl owners' manual, where would be?


He prolly has as much an idea as you do while using some of those unnecessary cuts you incorporate!!! funny, now you question one doing what they read in a book all the while utilizing info you have read (twisting it to serve your purpose) & in books you havent read cause they`re not even out yet!!!!


Guess we would be left watching your absurd videos :dizzy:



LXT..................
 
Would you care to answer the question LXT???? why cut a notch 1/3 the diameter of the tree? Pretty simple question.. An arb of your self proclaimed experience ought to understand that.. its one of the most fundamental techniques in the trade..


He prolly has as much an idea as you do while using some of those unnecessary cuts you incorporate!!! funny, now you question one doing what they read in a book all the while utilizing info you have read (twisting it to serve your purpose) & in books you havent read cause they`re not even out yet!!!!


Guess we would be left watching your absurd videos :dizzy:



LXT..................
 
Your wrong on both counts Sex is clearly listed under Love/Belonging and under Physiological. Timber felling would be covered though not as obvious but under Self Actualization and listed as Problem Solving.

I said sex was not on there ENOUGH. Also there is a difference between timber falling and timber felling. Those who know will weed them out. The list is still bull####.
 
Would you care to answer the question LXT???? why cut a notch 1/3 the diameter of the tree? Pretty simple question.. An arb of your self proclaimed experience ought to understand that.. its one of the most fundamental techniques in the trade..

Sheesh.........I was gonna make a video & provide a specialty cut & notch narrative, but hey......ya seen one ya seen em all, right Murph?

well Murph, thats the rule of thumb & flexibility is the true guidline in all we do in the tree care trade.....I mean a hinge thickness of 10% is also rule of thumb now isnt it? Im sure Jeff Jepson`s to fell a tree publication would provide a wonderful insight for those needing to know the "book rules"? BTW.....a book I have read & a good tool for the novice such as yourself!!

Im wondering when you are gonna enlighten us in your take of reading that 4th edition? :laugh: thats a simple question too.

To give a lesson on proper notching & felling techniques, it is best done in the field, However we have all seen your work on the subject matter & it is agreed that you lack the proper ability to engage in such action & therefore should refrain from video promotion of such............Ill say this from my proclaimed experience, I dont recklessly drop trees on the road, driveway or the homeowners ornamental plantings, I dont need a crane for a simple pine take down beside some hedges, I dont leave stubs in prune jobs & I have never had a home owners dog turn its back on me!!!! I could go on......but theres just to much ammo to shoot, after all you are the self proclaimed "extreme precision, proper pruning...drop it while its hot, guru of the special cuts" :laugh:




LXT................
 

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