New gen full-wrap handles now ready!

[Metals406]

3/4 Wrap............................:hmm3grin2orange:

You make one first, and let us know how it goes. :msp_flapper:

 

[StihlyinEly]

It felt to me like there is a bit less vibe with the new handle. I was OK with the standard Stihl factory handle's vibes, too. It's not something I place a lot of importance on, so someone more in tune with that issue might see a larger difference.

 

[Metals406]

It felt to me like there is a bit less vibe with the new handle. I was OK with the standard Stihl factory handle's vibes, too. It's not something I place a lot of importance on, so someone more in tune with that issue might see a larger difference.

That's inline with what we've heard.

People have said there seems to be less vibe transfer into the WC handle -- I don't know why, but maybe the coating cuts out some harmonics?

Might be the more substantial billet aluminum bottom mount too?

 

[SawTroll]

I may have missed it, but how is the weight compared to the saw brands own offerings?

 

[Metals406]

I may have missed it, but how is the weight compared to the saw brands own offerings?

Hahahaha! :notrolls2:

Niko, it's definitely lighter in the hand.

I should get Rod to weigh it and a couple others for comparison.

EDIT: I just weighed the one I have here (with my bathroom scale) and it's says about a pound. A better scale would be more telling.

 

[Adirondackstihl]

You make one first, and let us know how it goes. :msp_flapper:

Send me all your tooling :jester:

 

[Gologit]

All kidding aside, the screw thing will be a non-issue for many, others will complain for the sake of complaining. Stihl 046's and 066's came with varying screw lengths, based on the handle that was on the saw when it was purchased.

We have sold many that needed nothing more than what was on their saw -- others have went to their dealer and spent $4.00 for the screws. Some guys already have the screws in their goody-box from working on saws -- some get them for nothing because their dealer likes them.

As for the handle cost, it is what it is (less than Stihl charges BTW). That's what it takes to make a profit on them. They're a custom handle, that's strong and light, and well made.

Some guys buy the $80.00 boots every six months, some buy the White's once every 5 years. Some guys buy the cheap High-Point, others buy the Kimber.

Quality isn't cheap gentleman. . . If this product is beyond your want or need, don't buy one.

But trolling this thread, or any other with complaints of cost, and then trying to pretend like you know what it takes to make one. Seriously? Really?

As a fabricator, it's fairly easy for me to discern who has the experience in fabrication, and those who don't.

Well said. It's a quality handle for a fair price. I don't imagine you guys will be bumping Bill Gates for gross income but I hope you come out alright on it.

On the complainers...if a guy doesn't want a well made and useful item at a reasonable price he can always pay a little less for second rate stuff.

On the screw thing...my dealer just handed me one...no charge.

On the vibration...'bout the same.

On the usefulness of a true full wrap...can't beat it.

And Niko...quit worry about weight. :msp_biggrin: The new handle isn't any heavier at the end of a long day than the old one was.

 

[StihlyinEly]

And Niko...quit worry about weight.

Like THAT'S going to happen. If there's anyone who can take an ounce and turn it into a pound, it's Niko. :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Gologit]

Like THAT'S going to happen. If there's anyone who can take an ounce and turn it into a pound, it's Niko. :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:

:msp_biggrin: I know. We gotta get him over to this side of the pond for some GTGs. He can be the official weigh-master.

 

[Rounder]

I got to check these out at Darby Logger Days, and I can say that they are really well done. Really liked the extra clearance, be nice in winter time with thicker gloves. Quality of the grip coating seemed excellent. I'd take one over OEM any day. Always preffered the true full wrap anyhow myself.

Just waiting for the 372's...
....Best part of the whole deal is being made in the USA.

 

[fearofpavement]

I'd have paid the extra $6 for the two longer screws right up front. An extra $2 over what I'd pay at a dealer for the scrws is nothing. That way I wouldn't have to make a special trip to my dealer for the longer screws (and they are a very small dealer and may have to order them), and when the handle arrives at my door I can slap that puppy together and go chew wood.

For sure it depends on volume as to whether you wanna fool with it, but I think quite a few others would opt to buy the screws along with the handle. Complicates matters a bit, but you can sure make it optional. I'm sure also that plenty of folks already have the longer screws, and others won't mind a trip to the Stihl dealer to pick up a couple.

Now that the screw length thing is explained on the Web site, the surprise factor will be removed, and that's usually what gets guys going a bit -- getting something expensive that they unexpectedly can't make fit with the materials at hand.
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This is basically what I was trying to say. I was not filing a complaint about the price of the handle. (geez you guys are touchy!) I was indicating that if I received this item and didn't "happen" to have the correct screws, then I would have to make a trip to a Stihl dealer (more than 20 miles away) and possibly have to wait for an order and then maybe make another trip. For lack of a couple screws, I wouldn't be able to use my new gizmo. THAT is why I was suggesting the handles come with the correct attaching hardware. Even if the person "might" have the correct screws in their saw, this just seems like a good marketing move.

 

[Metals406]

We've all but beat our face against a brick wall trying to get screws (insert handy smiley). :bang:

Trust me, I'm a saw geek/user, and I see where y'all are coming from.

Distance from folk's dealer was addressed fully, and considered. Not everyone has one handy where they can just pop-in.

Wasn't trying to sound snarky the first time, but wanted to lay everything out there.

Perhaps it would be worth offering screws on the site? In the end, it'll be up to Rod. The concerns I spoke about earlier, are still valid concerns -- we don't want to get banned from our local shop over some screws.

Stihl can get all frothy at the mouth over stuff that you and I wouldn't think was a big deal.

 

[webercustoms]

Nate is touchy :rant: I'm a ball of joy Just kidding, Nate talked me down after the lineX comment. That's where the China thing came from. The screw thing is understood, We would love to offer screws but would only offer the correct ones. Unfortunately Stihl will not allow it.

 

[fearofpavement]

What policy could reselling screws violate if they are purchased at retail? If I buy a Stihl bar at my local dealer, would it be illegal to sell it on eBay? If so, how can that be? I own it. I can see why Stihl restricts their dealers from selling parts online as this would cut into sales from the local dealer but if the screws were purchased from the local dealer, what "law" could be put into play that would restrict the owner from doing whatever they want with purchased items? I could go buy a GMC truck tomorrow and sell it on Friday. If it is my truck, GM can't keep me from reselling it. Not sure I follow what the problem is...

 

[awspence]

Even if it is an oddball, I would almost wager that some of "us" could find a source for that particular screw if we knew the particulars of it.

If you know these, then post up and I will see what I can do!

 

[Metals406]

What policy could reselling screws violate if they are purchased at retail? If I buy a Stihl bar at my local dealer, would it be illegal to sell it on eBay? If so, how can that be? I own it. I can see why Stihl restricts their dealers from selling parts online as this would cut into sales from the local dealer but if the screws were purchased from the local dealer, what "law" could be put into play that would restrict the owner from doing whatever they want with purchased items? I could go buy a GMC truck tomorrow and sell it on Friday. If it is my truck, GM can't keep me from reselling it. Not sure I follow what the problem is...

We're on the same page, but like I said, Stihl gets weird about resale of their stuff.

Fish was buying new saws, paying full retail, and bringing them home. At that point, they were his legal property, right? He'd take them apart, and sell the parts on Evilbay. Stihl caught wind and told his local dealers to not sell to him.

If memory serves me correctly, he was banned from two dealers, and had to cross state lines to go to another one that would sell to him.

If we markup the screws to make it worth the hassle, they might try the same stuff with us. . . And I like being unbanned from my dealer. :msp_wink:

 

[webercustoms]

Weber Customs Inc Is a corporation, Different set of rules. I could get away with it for awhile but our local Stihl dealer said he would rather not order me 100 screws at a time-would raise a flag and cause problems for him if Stihl found out. You can sell whatever you want on secondary market but if you were a ford dealer selling new Chevy parts-you would receive a nice letter.

 

[Metals406]

Even if it is an oddball, I would almost wager that some of "us" could find a source for that particular screw if we knew the particulars of it.

If you know these, then post up and I will see what I can do!

I'm still working on finding a comparable screw from another source. One that has the same thread pitch and isn't some hokey screw with the tip ground off.

Google "Ribe plastoform". . . That's the real deal.

There's a lot of others out there that look similar, but I ain't contacting Lin Chow or Benji Bengoli to place an order.

 

[young]

attention walmart shoppers who wants to pay walmart prices, this full wrap handle isnt for you...... so move along.

btw i wonder if anyone of those people priced out stihl oem 3/4 handles or other full wrap handles..... probably not.

 

[FSburt]

This has probably been answered already but what is the reason stihl came up with the 3/4 wrap? My take is when putting in steep snipe the full wraps would hit the tree and keep the dogs from engaging I know this happened alot when I was using the 075 stihl and am think this is why some guys cut their handbars just wondering. I do like the looks of the fool wrap on the 044 though and would like to get one for mine.