poulan 245 sa

[tilenick]

Vintage Poulan 245 Super Automatic P60 Super 66 090 s-72 92 066 | eBay
I bought this yesterday and was wondering if the rings are the same size as the 245 and 245a I looked at acresinternet and the displacement varied a little. I hope it will make a good big brother to my 306a
Thanks,
Nick.

 

[SilverKing]

Im the proud owner of 2 245 A saws.But I cant answer your question.Anyhow,looks like ya got a pretty good buy.Please hold,a Poulan expert will be with you soon

 

[MS460WOODCHUCK]

Vintage Poulan 245 Super Automatic P60 Super 66 090 s-72 92 066 | eBay
I bought this yesterday and was wondering if the rings are the same size as the 245 and 245a I looked at acresinternet and the displacement varied a little. I hope it will make a good big brother to my 306a
Thanks,
Nick.

Same cc and rings.

 

[Modifiedmark]

Yes they all use the same size rings.

Before you go that far though, do a compression check, those saws have a large starter which make them pull over pretty easy and there not real high compression saws to begin with.

If it is lower then 120lbs or so, pull the muffler to look at the P/C. If not scored and all looks good, do a vac and pressure test on it to make sure the decomp valve is not leaking. I have seen it one time and I ended up plugging the decomp off to fix it. The plunger just would not seal no matter what.

 

[tilenick]

Same cc and rings.

thanks, I bought rings off ebay about a month ago for the two 306A that I have and they turned out to be for the 245 and I wanted to know if they would work I was also wondering if powersharp stones and chains were available or if I should just disable it.
Nick.

 

[tilenick]

Yes they all use the same size rings.

Before you go that far though, do a compression check, those saws have a large starter which make them pull over pretty easy and there not real high compression saws to begin with.

If it is lower then 120lbs or so, pull the muffler to look at the P/C. If not scored and all looks good, do a vac and pressure test on it to make sure the decomp valve is not leaking. I have seen it one time and I ended up plugging the decomp off to fix it. The plunger just would not seal no matter what.

I will check those out when it gets here in a week or two (snail mail) thanks

 

[Modifiedmark]

thanks, I bought rings off ebay about a month ago for the two 306A that I have and they turned out to be for the 245 and I wanted to know if they would work I was also wondering if powersharp stones and chains were available or if I should just disable it.
Nick.

Well, I know where to get the stones but the chain has been obsolete for quite a while. Not worth the trouble anyway, even though it is a power sharp setup, the chains still needed some file work done to them every so often as well.

Just remove the PS stuff from the clutch cover and cover the hole with a piece of thin metal and dont look back.

I do have a restored 306SA with a complete new power sharp setup on it, but its just for show at GTG and such.

 

[tilenick]

that must be a nice one Mark. I have done a few saws now mechanicaly only and I think I will have to look at restoring the bodies as well in the future
Nick

 

[hotshot]

Use Homelite Super XL rings

These work great Piston Ring Set for HOMELITE Super XL-AO, SXL-AO - SXLAO [#594361A] | eBay , am running them in two 306s.

Set the end gaps at 0.008-0.010" in the cylinder first, and then contour the ends to fit the keeper pin with a carbide bit in a Dremel.

You may go to chainsaw hell for using Homelite parts inside a Poulan (though they are really Cabers)

http://www.arboristsite.com/chainsaw/194048.htm

 

[XPLRN]

These work great Piston Ring Set for HOMELITE Super XL-AO, SXL-AO - SXLAO [#594361A] | eBay


You may go to chainsaw hell for using Homelite parts inside a Poulan though

For some reason that struck my funny bone pretty hard.......thanks for the chuckles!! :msp_laugh::msp_laugh:

 

[hotshot]

For some reason that struck my funny bone pretty hard.......thanks for the chuckles!! :msp_laugh::msp_laugh:

Yea I wonder if it would be full of 30" Red Oaks, and have brand new Mac 125s & new Stihl 090s setting around, but not a drop of gasoline to be found!

 

[tilenick]

That is a great fix I really want to see what these saws cut like with new rings and they are not that expensive. Did they fit in the groove nicely? Also I just helped my brother put new rings in his super xl and thought briefly to try that. It is good to know they are close enough to make them work
Thanks.
Nick.

 

[hotshot]

That is a great fix I really want to see what these saws cut like with new rings and they are not that expensive. Did they fit in the groove nicely? Also I just helped my brother put new rings in his super xl and thought briefly to try that. It is good to know they are close enough to make them work
Thanks.
Nick.

Yes, they're all the same thickness at 0.0625'', it's getting harder to find the old 1/16" inch American rings. Supposed to reject pistons with top groove clearances over 0.0035" (side gap) with the ring in the grooves, but these pistons are non obtanium anymore.

You'll like how these firewood getters cut, lots of torque when bucking, but at a slower chain speed.
Adjust the carbs high speed screw while in the cut, as they're all governed Tillotsons

 

[Modifiedmark]

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Adjust the carbs high speed screw while in the cut, as they're all governed Tillotsons

That quote should have said there "mostly" all .

There were some that were not, mostly early 306's and I can not remember the carb # off hand but can go out and look em up.

 

[tilenick]

Yes, they're all the same thickness at 0.0625'', it's getting harder to find the old 1/16" inch American rings. Supposed to reject pistons with top groove clearances over 0.0035" (side gap) with the ring in the grooves, but these pistons are non obtanium anymore.

You'll like how these firewood getters cut, lots of torque when bucking, but at a slower chain speed.
Adjust the carbs high speed screw while in the cut, as they're all governed Tillotsons

Yeah, I had to block the governor off but I have been real careful to not run them too lean and will love to get more power. I had to noodle some thirty inch diameter firewood rounds last year anh the one I was using was good but I am ready to up the torque

 

[tilenick]

I have one that is governed and one that is not.

 

[Modifiedmark]

Yeah, I had to block the governor off but I have been real careful to not run them too lean and will love to get more power. I had to noodle some thirty inch diameter firewood rounds last year anh the one I was using was good but I am ready to up the torque

Blocking the governor off will not give more power unless the orignal was malfunctioning. What it will do is allow you to adjust the carb eaiser out of the wood but it still should be fine tuned in the wood.

 

[Modifiedmark]

I have one that is governed and one that is not.

I find that the later HS 59A-B carbs idle better then the eariler ones without the governor.

 

[tilenick]

Blocking the governor off will not give more power unless the orignal was malfunctioning. What it will do is allow you to adjust the carb eaiser out of the wood but it still should be fine tuned in the wood.

No that's not what I ment I was referring to the idea posed to try homelite super xl rings in the 306 not that the gov blocking would make more power. Sorry I wasn't clear
Nick

 

[Modifiedmark]

No that's not what I ment I was referring to the idea posed to try homelite super xl rings in the 306 not that the gov blocking would make more power. Sorry I wasn't clear
Nick

Ahh, got cha.