paccity
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but your statements ,,,,,, oh heck nevermind.:bang:
when is a BIG saw (100cc) worthwile
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RandyMac
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just another wiener with OG envy.
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So, when are you building a J&J powered saw?
CATDIESEL
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so that would make you a washed up has been, that is still thinks he's logging with an old mac or homelite?
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Did you delete your post around #45? You know, the one that stated "comical post..." The one where YOU insulted us California girls? It is quoted here several times in other's posts.
homelitejim
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As a private firewood cutter I end up using large saws quite a bit. The local commercial firewood cutters are a lazy bunch and take every small dead tree next to the road leaving me the largest dead trees and they are usually never next to the road. I have been into some trees where the 32 inch bar on my 066 seemed small, once you get 150 foot off the road the trees do tend to get bigger. In a season I tend to run my 70 and 80 cc saws about 60% of the time, my 90+cc saws 30%, and 50cc and lower about 10%. Now on occasion I do find a grove of smaller 20 inch or less trees and the small saws get a workout but that does not happen often. So yes a 6 cube class saw is worth while to have in the arsenal even if you are just a private firewood cutter. Have I ever needed more saw than my 066? Nope but I could have used a longer bar. Those big all metal muscle saws are fun to run next to the trailer but are no fun lugging up and down the mountain, I have great respect for the old timers who did on a daily basis for what we would consider peanuts.
CATDIESEL
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ahh, yes i did, read your own crap as you sound like a girl. should delete them all or lock the thread. cause this is just that, comical
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Are you saying he does or doesn't have credibility?
RandyMac
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LMAO!!!
You disparage what you don't understand and you never will get it.
Better to be a washed up has been, than a never did.
The 1970s were a rockin' time, I'd go back in a flash.
CATDIESEL
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please then, go on ahead. :msp_w00t:
CATDIESEL
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you tell me, please, you two are real tight.......right?????????
I would think someone who has been running a chainsaw since he was 8 years old would have lots of pics. Oh, and where did that post go?
And now you're attacking Brad Snelling for being humble enough to post his mistakes and his honest opinions. Brad has a ton of friends here who won't take a liking to your accusations. Me for one. Time for you to leave ya think?
I won't bother even defending RandyMac. He can do that better than I ever could. But I'll tell you, once again you have insulted a well known and valuable AS member. Time for you to go and not come back. Course that's just my opinion.
paccity
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boy son you just keep pokin. why are you so but hurt on west coasters and there methods? no one originally took any personal shots at you or your ignorance but you sure are trying to. and you have shown your ignorance on other threads also. so take a pill and read and learn .
Catdiesel I am not a mod but I would guess you are close to getting banned. You better calm down if you want to stay. If not...well carry on.
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I'm more interested in your opinion. If you're going to bring someone's name up who has nothing to do with the discussion you should be prepared to clarify what you mean, instead of skirting the question. If you are scared to defend your opinion thats fine, but don't expect people to take you seriously if you're not man enough to say what you mean.
homelitejim
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The old McCulloch and Homelite chainsaws put more wood on the ground with less breakage than any modern saw, and when I say modern I mean the invention of AV. It also took a real man to drag one of those saws around and use on a daily basis, not to mention the copious amount of fuel and oil that was needed to keep them running. I read a lot around here about having to carry an extra ounce or two of saw weight, you guys today(I include myself) are not half the man these old timers were, you would be down crying to the union or some government agency about the unsafe and unfair working conditions and have the whole operation shut down. I won't even bring up the guys who used axes and handsaws. There is one thing we will not see 40 years from now and that is a commercially used modern chainsaw yet I look in my collection and see a bunch of great running 40 year old commercially used saws and there are a couple that will keep up with if not out cut any same size modern saw. This post may get me in trouble but I will not stand back and have some old timer who knows more about real logging be put down by someone who gets to enjoy the progress the old timer provided for them.
The few OG redwood fallers I knew were pretty well broken down. There hands looked like claws and they couldn't hear very well. But even in old age they were tough.
qbilder
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A giant old growth white oak blew down into a deep, steep, Appalachian ravine. It's far back into the forest with no road or trail access, but I want it. To get it I will need to buck it then quarter each log, and ATV skid out each quarter. I'm estimating that I will get several hundred BF of quarter sawn boards ranging from 4"-18" wide. The only way this will be possible (within reason) is with a 100+cc saw. I bought an 084 (122cc) specifically for this tree, and will be equipping it with a 5' bar, ripping chain, and Alaska style mill.
Sure I could cut a road to the edge of the ravine, senselessly removing numerous trees in the process, and winch each log up the steep incline (well maybe). But my band mill can only do a 36" log so it has to be quartered anyway. With an ATV & 122cc saw, I can get the logs & leftover firewood out without causing any major or long term damage to the property. For the price of a used saw, I get a load of pristine old growth, quarter sawn white oak, several cords of firewood, and a saw to be used for any similar future situation that I may encounter. Anybody who has ever tried pricing wide quarter sawn white oak knows how rare & expensive it can be. Imagine a cabin with solid panel kitchen cabinets, floor, and island all from the same tree. Some things are worth the effort. There might be other ways to get it, but a 100cc saw was the most economical, lowest footprint, most sensible way I could think of. Maybe there isn't a demand for giant saws in the east in terms of commercial logging, but that doesn't mean they don't have their place there.
Sure I could cut a road to the edge of the ravine, senselessly removing numerous trees in the process, and winch each log up the steep incline (well maybe). But my band mill can only do a 36" log so it has to be quartered anyway. With an ATV & 122cc saw, I can get the logs & leftover firewood out without causing any major or long term damage to the property. For the price of a used saw, I get a load of pristine old growth, quarter sawn white oak, several cords of firewood, and a saw to be used for any similar future situation that I may encounter. Anybody who has ever tried pricing wide quarter sawn white oak knows how rare & expensive it can be. Imagine a cabin with solid panel kitchen cabinets, floor, and island all from the same tree. Some things are worth the effort. There might be other ways to get it, but a 100cc saw was the most economical, lowest footprint, most sensible way I could think of. Maybe there isn't a demand for giant saws in the east in terms of commercial logging, but that doesn't mean they don't have their place there.
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