543 will be a flop

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spike60 said:
Gee, my old 242XP has neither auto-tune or rev boost, so I guess it's a slug, huh? :rolleyes:

It's funny; guys complain about all the new technology, but then a new saw comes out without it and it's a big mistake? :dizzy:
Never once did I complain!
 
Never once did I complain!


I meant guys in general, sorry that came out wrong. :oops:

But your other point about there being a need or not is something I raised a while back myself. The 545/550 are just so nice. What does the 543 really give you besides a little less weight? Couple things are in play here. The old 242 was a special saw. Unlike most 40cc class saws it had a unique smaller chassis as opposed to simply being a smaller version of a 50cc saw. Doing a lot of small work, it really is sweet. Plenty of guys will buy the 543 if it hits that target. The 242 had surprising power for just 42cc's too. Whether the 543 runs as good or not is something we'll know soon enough.

Another thing is that Stihl has that 241, and neither of these companies will allow the other to have a market niche all to themselves. Of course with Stihl, there is a little more of a weight difference between the 241 and the 261, so perhaps there's more logic for them to be in this niche. (not meant as a dig there.)

Last, some of the national tree companies do not want their crews running top handle saws, or more specifically one handed saw use. So, the 543 and 241 are in some ways more of an alternative to top handle saws than to each company's 50cc models. And not everyone wants to climb or do bucket work with top handle saws anyway. That was one of the reasons that the 242 was so popular in it's day. Husky didn't even have a top handle back then.
 
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Another thing is that Stihl has that 241, and neither of these companies will allow the other to have a market niche all to themselves. Of course with Stihl, there is a little more of a weight difference between the 241 and the 261, so perhaps there's more logic for them to be in this niche. (not meant as a dig there.)

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Yep, Stihl really needed a lighter and less bulky alternative to the MS261, Husky not so much to the 550xp. I assume the reason Husky also did it is just what you said!
 
Yep, Stihl really needed a lighter and less bulky alternative to the MS261, Husky not so much to the 550xp. I assume the reason Husky also did it is just what you said!


It really was NOT my intention to bash the 261 at all, so please lets not crank up that debate again. Just mentioning that the weight difference between the 2 saws was a little greater than the Huskys.
 
It really was NOT my intention to bash the 261 at all, so please lets not crank up that debate again. Just mentioning that the weight difference between the 2 saws was a little greater than the Huskys.


I know it wasn't, but it still is a relevant factor, regarding what happened, and in what order (the MS241 has been out for years here). ;)

Now I wasn't bashing anything either, I just stated some simple and obvious facts.....:givebeer:
 
But do you see a need for a 40cc saw when you have a 346 or a 550 there is not that much of a weight difference between the 50cc and the 43cc saws. And I would think (dont know have not ran a 543) the 346 would have a better power/weight ratio. Im just surprised bc it would be close to a T540 unless they saw a market for 40cc rear handle saw..... I just want the new 70cc saw!
For me the 346 is a mid size saw, so yes I see a need to a smaller pro saw. I don't like top handle saws, so yes again. Sayin it will be a flop before it's out just ain't right. :)

I sold my 70cc after running a 562xp for a year or so. Just sayin.
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I'm guessing many many landscapers/ tree services will be all over this saw and is probably why they are bringing it to market. I'll have one for sure
 
It is lighter and well-balanced with 13 inch sword, it is the only two positive things I can find.
I've tried it a little bit, I liked it, but, to start up a 550/2253 and then compare, two different worlds.
Yes, I think the 543 is kind of a specialty tool rather than a saw that covers a few bases. For most of us, the 550/2253 is a far more useful saw.
 
The people that have something dead against the smaller saws like the MS241C and 543 have obviously never run one. Everybody I know who has bought the 241 ends up leaving their 50cc saws in the shed. The difference on paper doesn't seem significant. The practical difference is huge.
 
Thanks for clearing that up :) Now Stihl need to talk to Husky and work out why the hell they can get such awesome throttle response out of a strato engine while theirs respond like a gut shot hippo...
As far as I remember, more people die due to hippo attacks than any other large animal in Africa! Ever see them get in a fight? So sorry don't ever want to meet a gut shot hippo! ;)

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As far as I remember, more people die due to hippo attacks than any other large animal in Africa! Ever see them get in a fight? So sorry don't ever want to meet a gut shot hippo!

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Heh heh. Probably a poor analogy but you get the idea :)
 
Hmmm! 543--345. I wonder if that is a coincidence. With all the talk about revboost & spooling up, I just had to relate that a friend of mine has a 345. It spools up faster than anything I have ever run. No, it's not even a pro saw, but it seems to reach max RPM (13,500) instantaneously when you mash the throttle, even without blipping it!
 

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