Which of these saws will respond best to woods porting?

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gunrush128 said:
MARK YOUR CALENDARS! The first time in the history of AS, that people are trying to talk others from a 3 saw plan down to a 2 saw plan!! Lol What is the world coming to?

I really never thought about it, but you make a good point... If I were to sell the 562, it would free up enough money to have the 346 AND THE 372 ported.... I'll have to give that some thought



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You need to read more:)...the recommendation to sell a 60cc saw and keep and port the 50/70cc saws is a regular drum beat.
 
rms61moparman said:
Mr. Giggles was getting close to what I believe is the best answer.

For me, I'd sell the 562 and have the 346 and 372 ported.
If you have a ported 346 you will have no use for the 562.


Mike
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I'm 100% with Mike. When you have ported 346 & 372, there's simply no place for a 60cc saw.

Who's DD ;)


 
gunrush128 said:
Okay, so.... For the first time, I've decided to have one of my saws ported, but I can't decide which one... I've been trying lately to stick to a three saw plan, and the three keepers are a 346xp NE, 562xp AT, and a 372xp xt. As far as condition goes, the 346 has the lowest run time, but none of the saws are less than good to very good condition. So, in your opinion, which is the best candidate for my first woods ported saw?

Chris
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I wonder what exactly is the definition of woods porting? That varies from shop to shop. The 346 has a lot of history & there for some proven modifications that have survived the test of time. And there are some really good builders hunting business off this web site. The 562 & 372XT are both still a work in progress. A few of the better shops here have improvements based on applying what has worked over time with any two stroke with compression and port timing that work. My hunch? Over time there is a lot more R&D to be done with these series. Both from a reliability perspective and performance gains as well. Of the two, I would be more inclined to trust the builds that keep things simple on the 372Xt's... And the 562's? Still a work in progress as the builds have time out in the field to prove reliability over time. Some of the "better" builders have built 562's that are truely impressive from a performance perspective. But I really like that series as they come out of the box. Of the three, they need mods the least in my mind for a typical working saw but paradoxically have the most potential over the next few years to grow as the "mechanical" R&D begins to mature along with those who eventually (not yet to my knowledge) start hacking the electronics. As saws move into that realm, its going to be a whole new world just as it was with virtually every other motorsport. Just a prediction...:)

Bottom Line? If you are an OCD or an uptight sort... have the 346 ported by one of the guys here, you won't be disappointed.

A risk taker or adrenalin junkie? Have one of three guys here build the 562.

Two other wrinkles.... over time serviceability. If the build has a "Pop up" modified piston..... how are you going to replace that over time? So for the real world I'm more interested in sacrificing a littler performance for serviceability in the out years....
 
I've pulled the trigger on a ported 372, I think they have it pretty well worked out. And most of the builders share info with each other, so I'm sure they all build some great running saws, even if they are a different.
 
MustangMike said:
I've pulled the trigger on a ported 372, I think they have it pretty well worked out. And most of the builders share info with each other, so I'm sure they all build some great running saws, even if they are a different.
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Lot of history on the conventional 372's... not as much on the XT's.. That's a story still being written. It's not just the initial time spent just after the build, it's 5 years down the road how to they hold up... When did the XT's hit the market place? 2010? Not saying anything about how they run, just being an old man recognize R&D takes time. How many folks want to have that R&D and reliability testing done on their dime?
 
346. It sounds like this is the one you use the most. It's kind of a downer running your stock saws when you know you have a big ported beast waiting to eat. You can always do the big one next. This comes from experience.
 
Here's a shot of the race between a Mastermind 261 and a Mastermind 346 at the GA GTG. The 261 was a VERY impressive saw, but the 346 is the clear winner. I was fortunate enough to run two Mastermind 346's and a stocker that day. 346 is my vote! BTW I also ran a Mastermind 372, 440 and 660. Pound for pound the only saw that I felt was more impressive than the 346 was the 660.
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nmurph said:
Nope, and I been told the same about myself.

A ported 346 will pull an 18" bar in hardwood without a problem.
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Heck! My stock except for muffler mod 346XP NE runs a 18" bar ok anyway. Ported I can only imagine!

I do have my first ported saw on the way soon. 550XP from Terry. Can't wait. Hope i get it in my hands before Christmas, but if not it's all good. These kind of very good things are worth waiting for. ;)
 
gunrush128 said:
I'm a little worried that if I port either the 346 or 562, it'll start competing with the saw above it, creating a need to port all 3...will I still want to use the 562 if I have a ported 346, or the 372 if I have a ported 562?
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You are correct, which is why I would port the 372. It allows you to run bigger bars (more effectively) since you already have the smaller stuff covered. Port them all is the best solution.
 
sunfish said:
A ported 346xp is my favorite saw! But I have a ported 357xp that will Smoke a ported 346! :D

So for me there is a place for a 60cc saw. Don't really care much for 70cc saws, but that's just me...
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Just depends what you got or want i guess. If I had my 562XP ported i would have had no need for my recently bought minty muff modded 372XP or a stock 70cc class saw. If I'm honest i had no real need for it anyway but I'm glad i did buy it! If someone has a ported 50cc saw than not really a need for a stock 562XP or other pro 60cc class saw. Where does it end? :dizzy: A ported saw will always step on the toes of the next class up if it is a reasonably stock saw.
 
I feel like the 3 saw plan is a limbing saw, a mid-range felling/bucking saw and a big displacement saw for big wood. Your 346 is already a supurb limbing saw, it's made for that task. The 562 is a great "firewood" or working saw stock. The 372 is what I would get ported. You could run a 30"+ bar on it for the big dawgs, or an 16-18" for fun and games.

Don't plan on just having one ported saw once you get it done though :)
 
gunrush128 said:
MARK YOUR CALENDARS! The first time in the history of AS, that people are trying to talk others from a 3 saw plan down to a 2 saw plan!! Lol What is the world coming to?

I really never thought about it, but you make a good point... If I were to sell the 562, it would free up enough money to have the 346 AND THE 372 ported.... I'll have to give that some thought



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