FarmerTec Huztl MS660 Updated Build Kit - Build Thread

[cedar rat]

I found the Huztl ms660 so interesting, that I ordered one today. I am not sure what to expect from a cloned 066; the only big saws I've owned were 2100 Husky's, I've had five of them. I really loved the manual oiler when I was in big wood!

Anyway the MS660 kit looks like a lot of fun, and it's less than half the price of most the used 66's in my area, and no stripped screws!!

Thanks for the threads on these cloned saws and the great videos.

 

[MG porting]

I found the Huztl ms660 so interesting, that I ordered one today. I am not sure what to expect from a cloned 066; the only big saws I've owned were 2100 Husky's, I've had five of them. I really loved the manual oiler when I was in big wood!

Anyway the MS660 kit looks like a lot of fun, and it's less than half the price of most the used 66's in my area, and no stripped screws!!

Thanks for the threads on these cloned saws and the great videos.

You will get hooked on building it to where you will find yourself buying another one. Lol.

 

[morbius18]

660 #2, has the same issue in the same place. This I've looked closer. I used the metal gasket in the correct direction and used sealant. Had a vacuum leak along the cylinder bottom, where it hits the crankcase.


Tearing it back down...

 

[MG porting]

660 #2, has the same issue in the same place. This I've looked closer. I used the metal gasket in the correct direction and used sealant. Had a vacuum leak along the cylinder bottom, where it hits the crankcase.
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Tearing it back down...

The outer part of the transfer is hitting the case take a good look at that.

 

[morbius18]

The outer part of the transfer is hitting the case take a good look at that.

I know, that's what happened with the last one.

 

[MG porting]

I know, that's what happened with the last one.

Yea it's more common for the big bores to have this problem but it's a hit and miss with the standard bores but that's OK just takes a little more time to get it running is all. Lol

 

[morbius18]

Took the dremel to the jug. Now it has good clearance. Going to let the sealant dry overnight and test again in the morning.


As she sits now:

 

[MG porting]

Took the dremel to the jug. Now it has good clearance. Going to let the sealant dry overnight and test again in the morning.
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As she sits now:
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That will get the job done.

 

[David.M]

I'd also like to chime in and say thank you for all the threads and videos on these kit saws.

My first......and second....kit arrived yesterday. MS440 and MS660. Going to build the 440 first and then the 660. Last night I got the crank installed in the crank case halves. Had a little trouble with them not dropping in as easy as I expected after baking for 15 minutes at 240 degrees in the oven, but I got it together with a little extra manipulation.

So far I'm very happy with the kits and am looking forward to getting them running!

FYI on shipping, ordered on Huztl site and used paypal. Shipped to WA. Ordered the ms440 on 2/25 and the ms660 on 2/27. Both arrived on 3/7. So 10 and 8 days transit time.

Again, thanks to everyone who has shared helpful information about building these kits.

David

 

[MG porting]

I'd also like to chime in and say thank you for all the threads and videos on these kit saws.

My first......and second....kit arrived yesterday. MS440 and MS660. Going to build the 440 first and then the 660. Last night I got the crank installed in the crank case halves. Had a little trouble with them not dropping in as easy as I expected after baking for 15 minutes at 240 degrees in the oven, but I got it together with a little extra manipulation.

So far I'm very happy with the kits and am looking forward to getting them running!

FYI on shipping, ordered on Huztl site and used paypal. Shipped to WA. Ordered the ms440 on 2/25 and the ms660 on 2/27. Both arrived on 3/7. So 10 and 8 days transit time.

Again, thanks to everyone who has shared helpful information about building these kits.

David

Good to here that someone in my neck of the woods is building these things. Lol

 

[morbius18]

I usually use a heat gun and the case screws to pull them together. I also pull out the crank seals. There seems to be slivers of magnesium between them and the bearings from machining. Found it on both 660s and 440.

 

[Bedford T]

Took the dremel to the jug. Now it has good clearance. Going to let the sealant dry overnight and test again in the morning.
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As she sits now:
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good job. i notice you have the old style bar studs. next time you order you might want to get the studs with the shoulders. i think it holds the bar better. The clutch cover may or may not be beveled as they seem to swing back and forth, but a twirl with the dremel will correct it if need be. just an observation. it looks like you got the flange for the pressure test also so you are getting good solid reads.

 

[David.M]

I thought about using a heat gun, but went with the oven because I wanted to save and use the pre-installed case seals and I don't have a laser thermometer to measure bearing temperature. I was concerned about over heating and blistering paint on the case, or melting a seal.

My goal is to build these using pretty much just the parts that come in the kit. If certain parts break or wear out I can buy replacements and swap them out later. I'm optimistic right now. It is possible I will have a different attitude on future builds.

 

[Bedford T]

I'd also like to chime in and say thank you for all the threads and videos on these kit saws.

My first......and second....kit arrived yesterday. MS440 and MS660. Going to build the 440 first and then the 660. Last night I got the crank installed in the crank case halves. Had a little trouble with them not dropping in as easy as I expected after baking for 15 minutes at 240 degrees in the oven, but I got it together with a little extra manipulation.

So far I'm very happy with the kits and am looking forward to getting them running!

FYI on shipping, ordered on Huztl site and used paypal. Shipped to WA. Ordered the ms440 on 2/25 and the ms660 on 2/27. Both arrived on 3/7. So 10 and 8 days transit time.

Again, thanks to everyone who has shared helpful information about building these kits.

David

welcome to both of you new guys. its kinda funny you got both kits because you might have a 660 brake spring in the 440 and a 440 spring in the 660, so you might be ok. on the heat and the cases its always a nudge unless you maintain that heat for some time. the nudge can be a rubber mallet or the case screws. that is the part that gets my heart pumping putting those cases together.

there is a good story on that. there is a guy in germany that works on chainsaws and i saw him do the heat thing. now i don't speak german, but watching him i about came out of my seat. you can tell he was doubtful or at least a first timer using that method. lots of folks get hung up on using a press. anyway he took a really nice heat gun and got that case hot as fire and he was working on installing a bearing and it took it like a, well, it swallowed it, and it stunned him, speechless and then excitement, it was so easy. but when we are working with the crank the short side 100% of the time for me slides right in and the other side about 70% of the time until i get the persuader. i think its the hump on the crank. twice for me it was the guide pin out of whack a hair. anyway it works and getting there is the best part for me. seeing that beautiful case come together.

if you happen to run in on anything on the 440 that is improved or worse or worth noting please also post it in the 440 build thread so when guys are making a choice they have the latest info. we have not had any new photo posted there in a good while. all info welcome so pay it forward best you can. this thread is killing it and the 440 is a really great saw and kit.

 

[Bedford T]

I thought about using a heat gun, but went with the oven because I wanted to save and use the pre-installed case seals and I don't have a laser thermometer to measure bearing temperature. I was concerned about over heating and blistering paint on the case, or melting a seal.

My goal is to build these using pretty much just the parts that come in the kit. If certain parts break or wear out I can buy replacements and swap them out later. I'm optimistic right now. It is possible I will have a different attitude on future builds.

that was a good call letting the oven guide you. if you can afford it buy the piston bearing. you can't go back in there, or you sure don't want to. your right build it and if needed replace it later.

 

[Bedford T]

I usually use a heat gun and the case screws to pull them together. I also pull out the crank seals. There seems to be slivers of magnesium between them and the bearings from machining. Found it on both 660s and 440.

fuel and air should clean up the cases well enough. we always thought the seals should be removed. time has proven that not as important as common sense might have made it seem. there was no case corrosion in your photos

 

[morbius18]

These were like 1/8-1/2 inch shards/slivers where the bearing bosses had been machined. They were between the seal and bearing. They would have eventually ended up in the cylinder.

 

[Bedford T]

These were like 1/8-1/2 inch shards/slivers where the bearing bosses had been machined. They were between the seal and bearing. They would have eventually ended up in the cylinder.

thats bad

 

[Bedford T]

welcome to both of you new guys. its kinda funny you got both kits because you might have a 660 brake spring in the 440 and a 440 spring in the 660, so you might be ok. on the heat and the cases its always a nudge unless you maintain that heat for some time. the nudge can be a rubber mallet or the case screws. that is the part that gets my heart pumping putting those cases together.

there is a good story on that. there is a guy in germany that works on chainsaws and i saw him do the heat thing. now i don't speak german, but watching him i about came out of my seat. you can tell he was doubtful or at least a first timer using that method. lots of folks get hung up on using a press. anyway he took a really nice heat gun and got that case hot as fire and he was working on installing a bearing and it took it like a, well, it swallowed it, and it stunned him, speechless and then excitement, it was so easy. but when we are working with the crank the short side 100% of the time for me slides right in and the other side about 70% of the time until i get the persuader. i think its the hump on the crank. twice for me it was the guide pin out of whack a hair. anyway it works and getting there is the best part for me. seeing that beautiful case come together.

if you happen to run in on anything on the 440 that is improved or worse or worth noting please also post it in the 440 build thread so when guys are making a choice they have the latest info. we have not had any new photo posted there in a good while. all info welcome so pay it forward best you can. this thread is killing it and the 440 is a really great saw and kit.

When it ships to WA does it come by way of Japan in it's tracking history? Most of what I recall comes to NY first and travels.

http://thechainsawkitguy.com Kit info

 

[hacksaw11111]

Well got my new ignition, and got it started! Very relieved! Sounds nasty compared to my 231, haha.
Good video if you get it flooded...