How much chain do you use up before you retire a chain?

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Yeah... I hit an embedded j-bolt in the large ash being milled in my thumbnail... Did a lot of damage to the 114 driver chain...

I have found that when bucking trees from about 10 ft. on down, your best friend is a metal detector. A basic model can be had very cheap, just one that can tell you is there is or is there ain't metal there. A few years ago I cut a large hickory about twenty feet from our cabin in the woods. I used a metal detector to find the nails, screws and various fasteners that had been grown over. When I had it cleaned up, there was a double handful of metal removed. It made me wonder if the previous owners' favorite pastime was pounding nails into that tree. I bucked the last 10 ft. or so of that 24" hickory without hitting a single nail.
 
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I have found that when bucking trees from about 10 ft. on down, your best friend is a metal detector. A basic model can be had very cheap, just one that can tell you is there is or is there ain't metal there. A few years ago I cut a large hickory about twenty feet from our cabin in the woods. I used a metal detector to find the nails, screws and various fasteners that had been grown over. When I had it cleaned up, there was a double handful of metal removed. It made me wonder if the previous owners' favorite pastime was pounding nails into that tree. I bucked the last 10 ft. or so of that 24" hickory without hitting a single nail.

This j-bolt was about 20 feet off the ground... turns out it had been used as a clothes line anchor many years before!

I often cut on old farm lands and fencing, fencing staples, nails, etc. are very common. Yes most of the stuff is under 6 or 7 feet from the ground but there are times... ;)
 
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If I don't rock a chain, I'll use it till it's throwing teeth. If it's rocked I'll toss it if it's had more than a couple sharpens

I rocked a chain last week... Ugh... 84 drivers and it took 20-30 strokes on each tooth to sharpen it. This was one of those "I'm not going to let a rock beat me" experiences. ;)
 
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I rocked a chain last week... Ugh... 84 drivers and it took 20-30 strokes on each tooth to sharpen it. This was one of those "I'm not going to let a rock beat me" experiences. ;)

20-30 strokes per tooth? With a new sharp file- that should equate to about half the viable tooth length gone in dust.

This one log had been rolled, pushed, dragged by machine to this final resting spot- fair bit of dirt and stone lodged on the outside- thats a 36"bar, full comp 3/8 chain and 114 drive links- all bought back to good with a hand file.Phone 1 20 043.JPG

But to answer the original question- I keep filing until the top plate is no longer viable- the plate is less than the chain width, then they are retired.
They may be well off the front line before that- but they are handy for stumping- or trees that might have been fence posts for wire fences in a former life...... as others have noted earlier.
 
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20-30 strokes per tooth? With a new sharp file- that should equate to about half the viable tooth length gone in dust.

That's about right... That chain had only had two minor filings prior to that incident and it's half or more gone now! It took that amount of filing to get the tip of the tooth back to being the high point on the tooth...
 
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20-30 strokes per tooth? With a new sharp file- that should equate to about half the viable tooth length gone in dust.

That's about right... That chain had only had two minor filings prior to that incident and it's half or more gone now! It took that amount of filing to get the tip of the tooth back to being the high point on the tooth...
The one I mentioned earlier in the thread took more strokes than that. There was damage on the outside edge of the chisel tooth for almost half of the cutter. Ended up having one side of cutters significantly longer that the other but with rakers set right on both sides the chain cut great.
 
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The one I mentioned earlier in the thread took more strokes than that. There was damage on the outside edge of the chisel tooth for almost half of the cutter. Ended up having one side of cutters significantly longer that the other but with rakers set right on both sides the chain cut great.

Yep, when you have to file that much steel into dust, it kind of makes you think about the old carpenters rule of "check twice- cut once", especially when running long bars and many cutter chains. ;)
 
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Any problem using chains with a couple cutters missing?

I had a couple break on a new loop of txl Sat. when I found some old fencing in a tree. The same thing happened on the previous loop when the teeth were about half length, and it didn't seem to affect it.

Has anyone found txl more prone to break teeth? I never broke any on vp, vpx, or nk20 but switched to txl about the same time I souped up the 350. Don't know if the additional power might contribute to it.

I cut off one of the opposing side and make semi-semi skip chain!
 
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True, I am missing a few teeth.
Still cuts faster than stock.

They do. I've even replaced a few cutters on chains like that just to enjoy them a little longer. Get a preset and put on the other side of a "spare cutter" off another old chain and peen it over with a hammer. I had 1 chain with 6 cutters I'd done that too lol
 

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