You all need to recycle your carburetor based chainsaws and get the 500i

[ballisticdoughnut]

Hell absolutely no…my 038 super and my 500i, one in each hand and I can feel no doubt at all that the 500i is lighter. Maybe the 038 mag is lighter than the 038 super?

Absolutely hell yes I’ve weighed them both. They’re very close in weight. Next time I get a 500i in the shop I’ll post pics of both on a scale.

 

[rwoods]

I don't know what a 038 super weighs, but I know my 500i with full fuel and oil and a 25" bar weighs a tiny fraction over 19# on my balance beam scales. My 036Pro with full fuel and oil and a 20" regular bar weighs a fraction over 18# on the same scales. My go-to Mac 800 with full fuel and oil and a regular 25" .404 bar weighs 23.5#.
Ron

 

[9050lx]

As men lust for greatness from a saw
Weight less but horses much more
We we port, we advance
Tune by the seat of our pants
Working to get that screaming roar

But sitting so briefly on shop shelf
is a cutting demon that just sorts itself
No tuning guesses it makes
No high screw mistakes
Just fast from north to south

"it aint no 090" I hear the cries
"I cant wrench that if it dies"
"I miss carbs and points
"and my once younger joints
"and when I could catch a pretty girls eyes"

this new girl will cost you less
it eats wood faster than you can dress
it wont care if your wrinked
or that you slow tinkle
Its alway in sunday best.

The 500 will weaken your knees
This one just outright screams
Part tie fighter, part stuka
Hits like a bazooka
War winner against any trees

I still love my 242
the 346 and 066 to
but the new girl is tight
and ever so light
whats an old feller to do?

Stick out your chest
Grab up a breast
Whip it out (Why the saw of course)
Show them younguns a thing or two

 

[Greaser007]

Greaser007 here:
I am not familiar with the 500i saw.
I did enjoy reading the first 5 pages and came up with a conclusion:
Change is inevitable. I remember the day of using plastic to pay for fuel, and I still paid with green backs.

Being a draftsman by circumstances, there came a day where I had to change from hand drawing to Cadd.
I had to sign up for evening division local college classes to get instruction, and felt really Dumb.
Thank heavens for instructor's (mentor's).

I just drove through a portion of the 2018 Carr Fire burn scar looking at free pine (digger).
The area is a mess of digger pine trunks laying everywhere like pickup-sticks. Manzanita brush is already flourishing.
Here is why the wood is free. It litters the burn scar because your average "Joe" has never used a chain saw in his life, and would have no idea of how to extract the wood being mostly trunk wood 28 to 42 inches.
I use both my old Husky 2100cd and newer 394xp both running 38 or longer bars.
_ _ _ dang, I'm a lugger, and keep trying to keep the saws on pipe like a dirt bike or Subaru WRX.

Just after the Carr Fire the local Ace Hardware had a big Husky faller's saw for $1200, and it tempted me.
I guess if I were to run a nice light weight 500i, i had better keep her on pipe like the Subaru wrx hot rod.
( I ran a wrx for 14-years without wrecking it. got lucky, and what a kick in the pants car ).
The subaru wrx is such a pleasure, it will bring a smile to your face like a good pulling saw w/ sharp chain.

 

[RED-85-Z51]

thats the 520 ii coming next year @. $2300.

No...500i+, then the 500iX, then the 569Ultimate that cuts your wood and sweet talks your old lady

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[gyp69]

The Pic that Skeans shows in post #141 prompted me to display this one I took five years ago that shows my logger buddy and his MS660:
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Cottonwoods get pretty big around here. I bought this saw from him and he turned around and bought a pair of 661's. Then last year he traded those in on a pair of 500i's. He loves the new technology. I still have this MS660.

What does your logger buddy do with those cottonwoods?

 

[user 122190]

What does your logger buddy do with those cottonwoods?

10 years ago I dropped all the cottonwoods on my property. I put them on the street, as free firewood. Free anything gets taken.

 

[gyp69]

I guess if your desperate for firewood lol, it is some nasty stuff the only thing I can think of that is worse is black gum. I really am curious as to what a logger in Nebraska would do with it. Does it have any commercial value? Pallet grade maybe?

 

[user 122190]

I guess if your desperate for firewood lol, it is some nasty stuff the only thing I can think of that is worse is black gum. I really am curious as to what a logger in Nebraska would do with it. Does it have any commercial value? Pallet grade maybe?

Yeah, they are just full of juices and take forever to season. And in the stove, make a mess and don't put out much heat. For firewood, cottonwood is about worthless. But for some, don't know or don't care, they got a lot of free firewood.

 

[3000 FPS]

So, cottonwood is not the best firewood in the world but there are some of us at times that is all we can get.
So, if it keeps me warm during the winter then I am going to get it and I am going to use it. If I have to stoke the stove a little more often or clean out some ashes more often who cares, it is a small price to pay for a nice warm house.
My wife cannot tell the difference if the house is warm from oak or from cottonwood. So worthless I do not think so.

 

[gyp69]

So, cottonwood is not the best firewood in the world but there are some of us at times that is all we can get.
So, if it keeps me warm during the winter then I am going to get it and I am going to use it. If I have to stoke the stove a little more often or clean out some ashes more often who cares, it is a small price to pay for a nice warm house.
My wife cannot tell the difference if the house is warm from oak or from cottonwood. So worthless I do not think so.

I agree I would do the same if that were all that is available. I am simply trying to ascertain why a logger would intentionally cut cottonwood, I am simply asking if it has any commercial value in that persons region. I’m just curious that’s all.

 

[3000 FPS]

I agree I would do the same if that were all that is available. I am simply trying to ascertain why a logger would intentionally cut cottonwood, I am simply asking if it has any commercial value in that persons region. I’m just curious that’s all.

That is a good question. I have never heard of anyone using it for construction of any kind.

 

[gyp69]

Me either, I used to live in Riverton, used to duck hunt on the Wind River there are some whopper cottonwoods down there but most would have been impossible to even get a log out of one.

 

[3000 FPS]

Me either, I used to live in Riverton, used to duck hunt on the Wind River there are some whopper cottonwoods down there but most would have been impossible to even get a log out of one.

I am east of Cheyenne. I have cut some pretty good size cottonwood and I have burned a lot of it in my stove and there are people here that will not use it. But like I said it does put out heat.

 

[Woodchuckels]

Years ago they used to use cottonwood boards to make grain doors to use in standard box cars to haul wheat in our area. Yea cottonwood is low on the btu list, but if you cut standing dead. It burns pretty good. Try filling your stove with smaller splits and not manage the burn you will wish you had.

 

[woodfarmer]

Sold an 066 and 046, just getting a little heavy. A couple large 46”+ maple trees. An Exile double barrel ss shotgun muffler cover. She rips. It’s only a hair heavier then my 2171’s but doesn’t really feel like it. 32” light bar.
Love the saw, I don’t work on my own saws anyway so carb or fullie doesn’t make any difference to me.

 

[Swanman]

That is a good question. I have never heard of anyone using it for construction of any kind.

Horse trailer floors, other trailer decks. I have heard of some cabinets being made with cottonwood. Pretty sure it is in the poplar family. Maybe I am wrong on that. If you cut it and mill it before it rots, it has its place.

 

[Swanman]

Yeah, they are just full of juices and take forever to season. And in the stove, make a mess and don't put out much heat. For firewood, cottonwood is about worthless. But for some, don't know or don't care, they got a lot of free firewood.

Around here there is always the guy who is out cutting his winter’s wood late in hunting season. They are usually cutting piss fir or whatever is still left close to the road. That guy would gladly take free cottonwood.

 

[Doorfx]

Cottonwood is plentiful, and easy to get too for me. Out at the cabin the outdoor fire pit likes a mix of cottonwood , spruce, pine and fir. An occasional unpainted pallet etc. lol

 

[KASH]

I think of it this way totally dry wood which do you get the most heat from a 1000 lbs of Oak or a 1000 lbs of cotton wood ?
Kash