Rate your Chinese chain saw?

[echomeister]

Black Max 38cc. They at wal mart now for $138. I got it just to play with. No complaints so far. Warm starting procedure is to pull then push the choke to set the fast idle then pull on it. I got the carb tools and richened it up. Typically 6 - 8 pulls to start cold.
At first it was pretty weak. But at tank 4 it's come alive.

If they go down to $100 i'll get another.

 

[skeer007]

Almost forgot.. the best part about this saw is the recoil. Starting this guy is a BREEZE.. and yet I have no idea what the actual term is. But it's like when you pull the cord the coil spring builds up tension until 6/8th of teh way fully extended. Then the resistance overcomes and 'brrth, brrth, brrtp", usually starts after 3-5 pulls with the choke out cold.

 

[weimedog]

I'm thinking the g395xp is the most fun and possibly the best quality Holzfforma saw to this point. Havve more time on it and it just keeps getting better. A few minor issues. Had to change out the piston & muffler bolts. Some would see that as an issue. But going thru the process gives viability to other parts and they are looking good. Also been noodling, logging, and milling with a g288. Other than replacing the bar oil pump, it's been real solid. Boring but solid.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

I'm thinking the g395xp is the most fun and possibly the best quality Holzfforma saw to this point. Havve more time on it and it just keeps getting better. A few minor issues. Had to change out the piston & muffler bolts. Some would see that as an issue. But going thru the process gives viability to other parts and they are looking good. Also been noodling, logging, and milling with a g288. Other than replacing the bar oil pump, it's been real solid. Boring but solid.

For 350 shipped and 23 dollar piston change what is not to love about a clone G395xp.

Weight with some oil and mix residue. PHO dry as I could get.

 

[skeer007]

That's the 92 or 71cc Holz?

 

[NSEric]

I havent had any clutch issues with my Zenoah clones like others have. I run a 15 inch bar on one with oregon lpx or bpx chain and a 18 inch oregon speed cut bar/chain on the other. both have 8 pin rims. I think the 20 inch bar is too much for the little clutch on em, with a shorter bar you cant put as much strain on the clutch.

 

[serdie]

I havent had any clutch issues with my Zenoah clones like others have. I run a 15 inch bar on one with oregon lpx or bpx chain and a 18 inch oregon speed cut bar/chain on the other. both have 8 pin rims. I think the 20 inch bar is too much for the little clutch on em, with a shorter bar you cant put as much strain on the clutch.

The little 4stroke Senix that I bought as a novelty item just keeps running! It always starts, runs slow but cuts all day long. Just allow yourself extra time

 

[sean donato]

I havent had any clutch issues with my Zenoah clones like others have. I run a 15 inch bar on one with oregon lpx or bpx chain and a 18 inch oregon speed cut bar/chain on the other. both have 8 pin rims. I think the 20 inch bar is too much for the little clutch on em, with a shorter bar you cant put as much strain on the clutch.

Be specific in your description. What cc so we at least know how to compare whats being talked about.

 

[sean donato]

That's the 92 or 71cc Holz?

Thats the husqy 395xp copy. 94cc.

 

[sean donato]

For 350 shipped and 23 dollar piston change what is not to love about a clone G395xp.

Weight with some oil and mix residue. PHO dry as I could get.

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I like my low top 394xp better then the high top, however the filter gets dirty quick on the low top version. I was really tempted to grab one up to compare to my 394/5.

 

[skeer007]

Thats the husqy 395xp copy. 94cc.

Interesting.. I don't think Ive seen a 94cc on places like Amazon. It's always 91.

 

[sean donato]

Farmertec 93.6cc Holzfforma G395XP Gasoline Chain Saw Power Head 56mm Bore With 28 inch Guide Bar with chain https://a.co/d/4BjThh9

 

[sean donato]

Interesting.. I don't think Ive seen a 94cc on places like Amazon. It's always 91.

Look mate I'm gonna be a but blunt. Amazon isn't where you buy a saw that you need to rely on. If you can afford a $500.00 clone saw, then surly you can afford to get a decent echo, or a nice used husqy or stihl. At least then you know where you stand and know you can get the parts.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

I like my low top 394xp better then the high top, however the filter gets dirty quick on the low top version. I was really tempted to grab one up to compare to my 394/5.

Cut like a 395. Close your eyes I cant tell difference. Timing stock about same too.

Just redid a 394 low top for local.

 

[dboyd351]

@sean donato
A big part of the appeal of some clones like the holzforrma and farmertec is that the parts are supposed to be 100% interchangeable with the cloned stihl or husky saw. That means you can buy the name brand parts either to upgrade or as a more expedient way of getting replacement parts.

 

[skeer007]

Look mate I'm gonna be a but blunt. Amazon isn't where you buy a saw that you need to rely on. If you can afford a $500.00 clone saw, then surly you can afford to get a decent echo, or a nice used husqy or stihl. At least then you know where you stand and know you can get the parts.

I get you, but to be fair I have no idea where else that's more or less reputable to buy clones. I'm in the middle of nowhere so locally is out of the question. The one saw shop semi-nearby raised prices pretty heftily due to the supply issues last year. I'm not sure they went down either, but I agree and I'd like to feel a brand new Stihl in my hands. Especially since my grandfather was a dealer in AR back in the day. One way I see it is that if I have to order parts online, then it really doesn't matter if it's clone or legit. Especially like dboyd351 said. Interchangeable parts are pretty sweet.

 

[jellyroll]

Really liking my RedMax G3800, GZ4000 clone. Made by Panier in china for MTD it is a copy of the redmax. The ryobi, black max and craftsman saws are practically the same with the exception of the ryobi and blackmax requiring 50:1 vs the craftsman requiring 40:1

 

[sean donato]

I get you, but to be fair I have no idea where else that's more or less reputable to buy clones. I'm in the middle of nowhere so locally is out of the question. The one saw shop semi-nearby raised prices pretty heftily due to the supply issues last year. I'm not sure they went down either, but I agree and I'd like to feel a brand new Stihl in my hands. Especially since my grandfather was a dealer in AR back in the day. One way I see it is that if I have to order parts online, then it really doesn't matter if it's clone or legit. Especially like dboyd351 said. Interchangeable parts are pretty sweet.

Im not saying get a new stihl, I'm saying get something decent. And stihl is a pain to get part for online. Easier to get parts for a husqy. Heck look through the classified adds here and see what guys have up for grabs. It's pretty obvious your going to keep having issues with the saw you have, it's not that its a just a clone, it's a morphed non standard clone. That's the issue. Right now you don't even clim to have interchangeable parts with an actual saw.

 

[sean donato]

Cut like a 395. Close your eyes I cant tell difference. Timing stock about same too.

Just redid a 394 low top for local.

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Looks as rough as mine lol good saws, you keep the 94 top end or go with the 95 top end? I picked mine up tosted from a cracked intake manifold. Was easier/cheaper to get the 95 top end the find all the 94 parts.

@sean donato
A big part of the appeal of some clones like the holzforrma and farmertec is that the parts are supposed to be 100% interchangeable with the cloned stihl or husky saw. That means you can buy the name brand parts either to upgrade or as a more expedient way of getting replacement parts.

That doesn't apply in this case. It's It's goofy clone. Everyone can love their zen/redmax whatever but we've determined his 62cc is a morph clone of the 40cc saws. That leaves you in no man's land.
I'm really not against the clone saws or their parts. Lord knows if it wasn't for cheap parts a lot of the saws / o. P. E. Wouldn't get fixed. But at least stick with something common.
Here pick one you can get parts for anyone them.
https://www.farmertec.com/Holzfforma-Brand-c26464/list---2-1-----r2.htmlAnd there cheap as all get out.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

Sawsalvage moly piston kit and cleaned up his old cylinder for reuse.