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My Farmsaw (purchased new in 79) does a fine job with both 20" and 24" bars. You'd be hard-pressed to convince me that Stihl has anything on my Pioneer!
Actually my 359 Husky does a good job with both 20" and 24" bars too.
The Pioneer is pretty much retired today but she is my backup saw if ever she's needed. I fired her up a week or two ago, She still runs as she did once she was broken in.
 
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So I don’t have a P42 but I do have a P41,P50 and P60.

The stud spacing for the P41 are 35mm on centre.

The stud spacing for the P50 and P60 are 40mm.

The P50/P60 covers are noticeably larger when held beside the P41.

Hope this helps!
I’ll measure mine tomorrow thank you. If it is I would be willing to trade straight across for one or sell it if anyone is interested
 
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Another little bit of trivia about the family of saws starting with the P40. The P40 started with 5/16 in. bar studs and no chain brake. Later in the production a chain brake was added with holes matching the 5/16 in. studs. Then the stud size was changed to 3/8 in. The P41, P50, P60 and everything that followed had the larger studs. The P50 and P60 started out with no chain brake and they were added later.
 
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Another little bit of trivia about the family of saws starting with the P40. The P40 started with 5/16 in. bar studs and no chain brake. Later in the production a chain brake was added with holes matching the 5/16 in. studs. Then the stud size was changed to 3/8 in. The P41, P50, P60 and everything that followed had the larger studs. The P50 and P60 started out with no chain brake and they were added later.
Hmmmm maybe mine is a p40 I can’t remember
 
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was looking at a very worn model 650. really like the look and design of these old saws. I like to redo old chainsaws including prepping and re-painting. this would be a good candidate as it has almost no paint left on it, and I don't like to paint old tools that still have a good finish.

when I do this, I want the saw to be running, even though I may never use it, or maybe just a little. are parts available to get one of these up and running?

thank you.
 
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You bet you can still get bearings, seals, Rings, fuel lines and filters, all after market.
gaskets you will have to make, try and keep the old ones for patterns
 

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Thankfully most of the IEL/Pioneer parts are standard sizes so seals and bearings are pretty easy to get. Gaskets are easy, and they pretty much all use basic normal fuel lines. Only bad thing are the OMC carbs that some of them use.

And since we are sharing restored saws:

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IEL HM and HC

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Pioneer 700


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IEL RA under restoration

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Pioneer 1750
 

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