Methane is not toxic to humans per se. But you can be asphyxiated due to lack of oxygen if too much methane is present. BTW, methane itself is odorless. But when manure emits methane, it also emits a lot of other stuff, most of which stinks. It is the sulfur compounds that stink the most. That is why they add mercaptans to natural gas supplies: so you can smell it if it leaks.
Brush and debris pile burning in cold weather?
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That is my accelerant of choice. It will not flash fire, so it is safer than kerosine, and much much safer than gasoline.
tires are the long time fav! BUT since I dont have any I go for diesel fuel, motor oil, etc. followed by the 500,000 propane weed burner and then we got a rip roarin fire in no time.
Since this is intended to be the Homeowner Helper Forum, continually suggesting the use of tires in starting a burn pile is very likely counterproductive to being HELPFUL. Just saying. As a matter of fact, in New York State, burning tire is specifically prohibited, as it is in MOST states.
Including Illinois. As was said above, you may get away with it, but that doesn't make it legal, or correct.
I get it, all y'all was just being facetious, but it has become boring.
Including Illinois. As was said above, you may get away with it, but that doesn't make it legal, or correct.
I get it, all y'all was just being facetious, but it has become boring.
Bill G
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Speeding is prohibitedSince this is intended to be the Homeowner Helper Forum, continually suggesting the use of tires in starting a burn pile is very likely counterproductive to being HELPFUL. Just saying. As a matter of fact, in New York State, burning tire is specifically prohibited, as it is in MOST states.
Including Illinois. As was said above, you may get away with it, but that doesn't make it legal, or correct.
I get it, all y'all was just being facetious, but it has become boring.
Jaywalking is prohibited
Selling cars on Sunday is prohibited
Tossing a banana is prohibited
So how many prohibited things have ya done?
Not really relevant. Burning tires is genuinely harmful to the environment. In addition to large amounts of particulates (mostly soot but some metal oxides), since all tires used vulcanized rubber, there is a lot of SO2 released. I am not concerned about global warming or anyone's carbon footprint. I do not regard CO2 as a pollutant. After all, our trees need CO2 to grow. But the products of combustion from tires are real pollution. Moreover, our roads are more durable when we incorporate shredded tires into the asphalt mix.
Bill, once again, this is the homeowners helper forum, where homeowners can ask industry pros for advice. Additionally, this site has always been dedicated to safety and BEST practices. If you want to burn tires, knock yourself out, but I challenge you to make a rational argument that burning tires is a best practice.
Bill G
ArboristSite King
You have your opinion I have mine. The OP has been unsuccessful at completing a simple task so it is time to implement tried, true, and proven practices that have been working for 100 years and will for another 100.
Bill G
ArboristSite King
Burning brush with tires is not going to kill the environment. We have done it done it years. Do you realize how many tires are burned each day on highways throughout the world?
"Kill" the environment? No, it won't. Neither will any other pollutant. But it sure as heck will make it worse. So are you bragging that you have engaged in a harmful practice for years? Are you proud of the SO2 you have released? Do you realize that very fine particulates contribute to lung cancer? Your argument that you have done it for years reminds me of a poster I once saw. It said: "Some people make the same mistakes for years and call it experience". BTW, tires on the highway do not burn. They disintegrate, but they are not combusted. If you don't know the difference between small rubber particles and burned rubber, then I guess you don't know the difference between sawdust and the remains of wood after burning (ash + H20 vapor + CO2, mostly, plus some small amounts of metal oxides and nitrogen oxides).
Bill G
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Before trying to call me out you may want to review simple science........states of matter...
Tires are burned every day on the highways. So is oil.
Wrong again. Neither tires nor oil are "burned" on the highway. Some oil is burned by the engine, but this is a relatively clean burn, subject to passing through a catalytic convertor, resulting in almost zero particulates. And I do know the science. I am a Chemical Engineer.
burn anything hot enough and it pretty much burns "clean"
tires without added oxygen and other stuff won't burn clean, and yeah, only tire burning on the highway is burnouts, funny thing is old tires are recycled and guess what, turned into asphalt lol
Indeed. And the addition of shredded tires to pavement greatly reduces cracking and wear. This is a good use of old tires. You may be interested to know that some large companies that have a need to produce either electric power or industrial steam actually burn tires for fuel, typically in a fluidized-bed furnace that can also burn oil, coal or natural gas. These furnaces burn extremely clean, and the exhaust gasses are scrubbed to remove SO2 and stray particulates. You would not see anything coming from the stack. Much better than burning tires in a brush pile!
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Plus the tires give the asphalt the necessary elasticity to avoid cracking!
Man that sounds high, chips, or brush how many yards?
Depends, my trailer holds 7 yards, roughly 2 ton of brush if we pack it, 6 ton of logs
The chip truck holds 14 yards, about 4-5 ton
I use chipdrop to get rid of chips for free, and there's a mulch yard local that let's me dump for $100 a load no matter how full my trailer, but when we have to go to the landfill it typically cost me $75-250 a load
They incinerate anything 8" and smaller, bury the rest
That really adds up at the end of the year, well it's a good tax deduction anyway!
