Without a doubt, the crappiest STIHL ever produced...

[RED-85-Z51]

Dude, this thread was like sitting around on Thanksgiving day listening to your relatives argue over what kind shampoo make their head tingle. In so far as the claims of the 280 being the crappiest saw made, a simple fix like a coil is a huge let down. I am no small engine mechanic, but any Joe could go through the simple steps of figuring this out. To make such bold a bold statement as the header of this thread, a huge fix, or finding out of a design flaw would have been adequate. A seized piston, squirrels stuffed acorns in the breather, hell anything but a coil...

The only thing I had to go by when I made this thread was the customers complaint that it never worked right.

It's still all flimsy feeling...

 

[Lignum]

The only thing I had to go by when I made this thread was the customers complaint that it never worked right.

It's still all flimsy feeling...

Red, I do not know you from Adam. I am not attacking your character or intelligence, or methods. The point to what I wrote was that a huge statement like that should have huge repairs. Kind of anti-climatic.

 

[scotclayshooter]

After all of that it was just a coil!
LAME

 

[Stihl 041S]

What irks me is that it took from sometime on the 12th of last month till now tofigure out it has no spark.

I think a case leak was the figured problem to begin.

It had no spark.

How much an hour to troubleshoot.

And it had no spark.

And somebody has no use of their saw this while.

Did I mention it had no spark.

Is that number 234 or 472 on the "List of things to check"?

Well maybe some one else will get tired of waiting for his saw and pick it up,

and take it to a repair shop.

People that can't troubleshoot, they shouldn't.

 

[Log Splitter]

Sure am glad I read through this whole thread. If the 280 is the crappiest saw ever made, then my 270 is even worse. As a matter of fact, the 180 is lower down the list. It might be that all Stihls are crappy. I'm not taking any chances, I've loaded up all this mess and I'm taking it to my landfill.

At least I still have my Poulans - Woodshark and 3450 - you can 'feel the quality' in them!

 

[Stihl 041S]

Sure am glad I read through this whole thread. If the 280 is the crappiest saw ever made, then my 270 is even worse. As a matter of fact, the 180 is lower down the list. It might be that all Stihls are crappy. I'm not taking any chances, I've loaded up all this mess and I'm taking it to my landfill.

At least I still have my Poulans - Woodshark and 3450 - you can 'feel the quality' in them!

Better do it at night or someone may see you and the kids will hang their heads in shame........that their dad had....dare I say it...(dare-dare!!) a saw That did not have the Redd Good Garage Keeping Seal Of Approval.

 

[Bowtie]

Wow, 25 pages and 378 posts for a coil? I'm glad it wasn't something big & complicated.




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Heaven forbid red boy checked for spark. A real mechanic will check for fuel delivery and spark before doing anything else

 

[Tzed250]

Compression, fuel, spark at the right time.

How hard is it?

BTW, how much did the customer have to pay for said coil?

 

[wanab]

Sure am glad I read through this whole thread. If the 280 is the crappiest saw ever made, then my 270 is even worse.

you are correct my good sir.


LoL! way to turn a 20 min fix into 2 weeks. atleast the man has his saw back.



opcorn:

 

[adkranger]

:notrolls2: :notrolls2:




...................................Oh crap, I just did again.






Two weeks - Lost saw time
390 posts - used bandwidth
A whole lotta useless crap info - Wasted time
And one ignition coil - should have been warranteed, free.

PRICELESS.

 

[wanab]

Two weeks - Lost saw time
390 posts - used bandwidth
A whole lotta useless crap info - Wasted time
And one ignition coil - should have been warranteed, free.

PRICELESS.

i love the internet!




:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[scotclayshooter]

my mate thinks his ms280 is the best saw ever! Ive been challenged to a race with my 036. I think large chunks of humble pie might be in order.
357xp is £50 cheaper than a 280 here i know which one i would have!!

 

[Lakeside53]

Heaven forbid red boy checked for spark. A real mechanic will check for fuel delivery and spark before doing anything else

He's still looking for the magnesium engine and cradle...

 

[RED-85-Z51]

I guess no one read the part where I checked spark and it had none...then I pulled the coil and sanded the legs, and tried it again, still no spark, then determined it had a bad coil huh?

 

[THALL10326]

I guess no one read the part where I checked spark and it had none...then I pulled the coil and sanded the legs, and tried it again, still no spark, then determined it had a bad coil huh?

You need to check the wiring harness from the coil all the way back to the on/off switch before you toss in the towel on the coil. You also need to check the spark plug boot on the coil wire itself. Sometimes people yank the coil wire off the spark plug so hard the clip under the boot comes unattached to the wire and is merely held to the wire by the boot, no connection to the wire at all resulting in no spark. Also remember a spark off the spark plug out of the cylinder laying against metal may not fire under compression. If you just sanded the legs on the coil without checking the wiring harness, plug boot and clip, or spark under compression you've yet to determind whether the coil is bad or not.

 

[parrisw]

I guess no one read the part where I checked spark and it had none...then I pulled the coil and sanded the legs, and tried it again, still no spark, then determined it had a bad coil huh?

I remember you doing this RED, these guys are just blind to the fact, they are just trying their hardest to find something wrong with what you did.

 

[Stihl 041S]

I am sorry

I have been rough on RED, but he seems to like it that way.

 

[RED-85-Z51]

You need to check the wiring harness from the coil all the way back to the on/off switch before you toss in the towel on the coil. You also need to check the spark plug boot on the coil wire itself. Sometimes people yank the coil wire off the spark plug so hard the clip under the boot comes unattached to the wire and is merely held to the wire by the boot, no connection to the wire at all resulting in no spark. Also remember a spark off the spark plug out of the cylinder laying against metal may not fire under compression. If you just sanded the legs on the coil without checking the wiring harness, plug boot and clip, or spark under compression you've yet to determind whether the coil is bad or not.

I did this by unhooking the kill wire at the coil itself, as I stated already in this thread.

I removed the boot (dont think I stated this) and tried a spark tester right to the clip, and still nothing.

fwiw, I used a proper plug tester, not just holding the plug to the head, but even after I got no spark that way, I did just hold the plug to the head, and it still didnt do anything.

Why cant anyone accept that this was a defective coil? I put the new coil on, didnt change anything as far as wires go or anything, and it started and ran okay.

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I see where someone earlier question how my mentioning moisture around the exhaust exit was any indication of anything, and how it meant nothing..

Well with mix gas, when you lack spark you get oil and fuel passing into the muffler, the gas evaporates...but the oil doesnt, leaving an oily residue down the muffler outlet, like I found.

 

[THALL10326]

I did this by unhooking the kill wire at the coil itself, as I stated already in this thread.

I removed the boot (dont think I stated this) and tried a spark tester right to the clip, and still nothing.

fwiw, I used a proper plug tester, not just holding the plug to the head, but even after I got no spark that way, I did just hold the plug to the head, and it still didnt do anything.

Why cant anyone accept that this was a defective coil? I put the new coil on, didnt change anything as far as wires go or anything, and it started and ran okay.

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I see where someone earlier question how my mentioning moisture around the exhaust exit was any indication of anything, and how it meant nothing..

Well with mix gas, when you lack spark you get oil and fuel passing into the muffler, the gas evaporates...but the oil doesnt, leaving an oily residue down the muffler outlet, like I found.

Good job Red. Now heres the problem. You started this thread about how crappy this saw is and all it needed was a coil, a 20 minute fix at most. Care to explain why you blow all this steam over a mere coil? See you put yourself in these positions. If you wanna bash and carry on thats fine, just be able to take it as well as dish it. That saw cause you alot of grief on here over your complaining how crappy it was and all it needed was a coil. Runs ok now ya say, good job. Shoulda just fixed it and went about your business but oh no, thats too easy. Lets get on the site and bash. Been better to merely fix the saw wouldn't it, wise up Red.

 

[Bowtie]

Good job Red. Now heres the problem. You started this thread about how crappy this saw is and all it needed was a coil, a 20 minute fix at most. Care to explain why you blow all this steam over a mere coil? See you put yourself in these positions. If you wanna bash and carry on thats fine, just be able to take it as well as dish it. That saw cause you alot of grief on here over your complaining how crappy it was and all it needed was a coil. Runs ok now ya say, good job. Shoulda just fixed it and went about your business but oh no, thats too easy. Lets get on the site and bash. Been better to merely fix the saw wouldn't it, wise up Red.

Amen, THall.