41" bar - Ported 084 vs Ported 880

[redbull660]

also tested these two with a 41" bar. Again please remember these are two different model saws ported by two different porters.

41" Stihl Bar (2) New Stihl .404 RSLF Chains. 7pin sprocket. In hindsight I wish I had done the test with 8pin sprocket.

Here is my muff modded 661 running the same .404 yes .404 RSLF chain as the 084 and 880 with the same 7pin sprocket. Obviously different bar. I get almost through on 1st cut, but cut out near bottom, at about 1:08. So then I decided to just do another cut that ended up being 1:12.

 

[redbull660]

I had some question of the results on the RSLF test above. So I did it again this time with full comp RS .404 again new chains, same bar, 7pin sprocket. This time I used a fatter tune.

In "pre" testing with the 36" bar both saws liked 12,500 the best. The cut times were fastest at 12,500 vs 12k, 12.2k 12.7k and 13k. That was with RS full comp 36" chain.

So on the 41" with full skip chain I brought the tune to around 12.8-13k. Figuring it took less to pull the full skip chain so I wanted to add RPM's.

Now here with the full comp 41" RS I dropped the tune to about 12.2k figuring I had a longer bar over the 36" RS combo which was best at 12.5k. So figured dropping 300 rpm would be about right, figuring the longer bar.

 

[CapitaineHaddoc]

Nice vids. Are both saws tuned the same way? The 084 sound richer than the 880, I can hear it 4-stroke even in the big log.

 

[redbull660]

I tuned them each according to what would produce the fastest times...per my pre testing.

here is one of them. I did another, more dialed in...written down somewhere I'd have to find it.

I asked randy about tune. He said 12,5k would be about ideal on the 36". That is what I got as well.

 

[RedneckChainsawRepair]

Now put a 10-11 rim with short bar 20" under wood 880 is still my pick in this video even though I loved my ported 084's.

 

[Deets066]

Sure would be nice if you'd dog them saws in and make um work!

 

[SquareFile]

Someone got there money's worth on the 880.

 

[TBrown]

Someone got there money's worth on the 880.

I guess I should make it to a gtg sometime so some others can try it.

 

[Nitroman]

As far as I am concerned I think it'd be damned skippy to own both of those saws. And if I had $200 I'd send you my 3120 to see how that'd run against them.

 

[cary911]

Awesome! I purchased a 36" Sugihara for the 880 and was Impressed. I wish someone could alter a 37" "Oregon Reduced Weight" to fit the saw?

 

[TBrown]

View attachment 455938 Awesome! I purchased a 36" Sugihara for the 880 and was Impressed. I wish someone could alter a 37" "Oregon Reduced Weight" to fit the saw?

saw feels great with the 36" light and tough.

 

[SAWMIKAZE]

Why is this thread so lonely ? , i figured everyone would be on this one.

Awesome test jules.

 

[Deets066]

saw feels great with the 36" light and tough.

I'm really hoping cannon comes out with a reduced weight 42" for the stihl large mount

 

[TBrown]

If you order 10 or 20 tsumura might make a 42" light.

 

[Deets066]

If you order 10 or 20 tsumura might make a 42" light.

That would be nice, and I would do it if I got enough people to go in on it with me, cuz I only need one.

 

[Nitroman]

I'm really hoping cannon comes out with a reduced weight 42" for the stihl large mount

Yeah, the Cannon are a little heavy, but that is their selling point; they are a stiff bar. And you cannot just call Stihl and ask them to make you a one-off bar and get an answer from the Top Dog like this: "okay, give us a couple weeks to make the bar, we'll send it to Madsen's...".

Have you asked them if they would try to make a lightweight bar? Worth a try.

 

[Jacob J.]

Awesome! I purchased a 36" Sugihara for the 880 and was Impressed. I wish someone could alter a 37" "Oregon Reduced Weight" to fit the saw?

Mercury Machine in Eugene, Oregon machines out the tail on the 33" and 37" Husky mount bars for 14mm Stihl large mount for the timber fallers in the area.

 

[TBrown]

That would be nice, and I would do it if I got enough people to go in on it with me, cuz I only need one.

I don't want a 42 light since I have a 36, how about a 50 light?

 

[mdavlee]

I don't want a 42 light since I have a 36, how about a 50 light?

Be too flimsy I would imagine. The regular weight is flimsy enough when turned on its side.

 

[sawfun]

If you need a light bar in a 50", maybe a longbar saw is not for you. 28 - 36 inch make sense to me, but shorter bars than that do not really benefit that much from weight reduction and long 50 + Inch bars need to have a deep belly and be stiff enough so they do not sag.