462s not holding up, carefull commercial users

[jquirk]

Blew up my second 462 in about 15 months time total, I was one of the first to buy this reboot of the 460 series in the area and loved it for its lighter weight and other new features, however I now own a second paperweight as my stihl dealer will not stand behind it and its got a mysterious crankcase crack that no doubt would not be there in older models with more meat on them.

recommend that heavy users such as myself avoid this new saw as they do not hold up, looking into cheaper and maybe older saws to run my business, avoiding stihl for now as a 30+ year veteran.

 

[Andyshine77]

Can you post up some price?

 

[Crispexx]

Blew up my second 462 in about 15 months time total, I was one of the first to buy this reboot of the 460 series in the area and loved it for its lighter weight and other new features, however I now own a second paperweight as my stihl dealer will not stand behind it and its got a mysterious crankcase crack that no doubt would not be there in older models with more meat on them.

recommend that heavy users such as myself avoid this new saw as they do not hold up, looking into cheaper and maybe older saws to run my business, avoiding stihl for now as a 30+ year veteran.

Can you elaborate some? Some pictures?

 

[Fatherwheels]

Maybe that is why Stihl re designed the case piston and cylinder.
There is a thread on the o p e fo ru m with images showing the new
design.
I posted about it here, but can't use the other sites images, I do mention
the full title of the post to search for in the below link
https://www.arboristsite.com/commun...case-cylinder-and-piston.353966/#post-7567348

 

[Fatherwheels]

May be if you tell us what you were doing with the saw and what exactly
caused its demise it would help us understand.
I picked one up, and they are a light saw, its not possible to have the strength
of the older saws without some of the weight, just my opinion.

Was there no lessons to be learned from the fist saws demise that could have
prevented the second disaster.

The Husqvarna 572 is heavier, well built saw, may be you could give one of them a try.
There is also the Echo CS7310, another good candidate depending on what you like.

 

[user 122190]

Maybe that is why Stihl re designed the case piston and cylinder.
There is a thread on the o p e fo ru m with images showing the new
design.

I thought that was with the 500i, and was the cause of its very tardy debut here in the US.

 

[Dean-O]

My shop has sold a lot of 462s. Only one has come back burnt up and that was taken care of under warranty. All of our pro tree service and loggers that own the 462 really like it and they run the piss out of them. They only time they come in to the shop is for a tune up and check over, all the ones I have worked on have been in good shape and pistons look fine.

 

[Fatherwheels]

I thought that was with the 500i, and was the cause of its very tardy debut here in the US.very

No, I remember that debacle too, but this is recent , the 462 has been re designed, Mastermind himself posted the differences.

 

[Fatherwheels]

My shop has sold a lot of 462s. Only one has come back burnt up and that was taken care of under warranty. All of our pro tree service and loggers that own the 462 really like it and they run the piss out of them. They only time they come in to the shop is for a tune up and check over, all the ones I have worked on have been in good shape and pistons look fine.

Stihl re designed them for a reason, I agree with Stihl on that, I believe the newer version
will be what the first should have been. The ghosting that takes place and the wear on the
Stihl pistons in those strato saws was not normal, am sure Stihl know this, and are working
on the solutions, the 462 re design was not for no reason.

It is not clear why the OP blew up two of them yet, more detail will reveal
the most likely cause. my theory is its oil related,if the OP used the same oil
in both then that is one key constant, the strato charge washes
the oil off the piston, where it tight and needs it most, only certain oils will resist this,
those electrically attracted to metal.

 

[bwalker]

Stihl re designed them for a reason, I agree with Stihl on that, I believe the newer version
will be what the first should have been. The ghosting that takes place and the wear on the
Stihl pistons in those strato saws was not normal, am sure Stihl know this, and are working
on the solutions, the 462 re design was not for no reason.

It is not clear why the OP blew up two of them yet, more detail will reveal
the most likely cause. my theory is its oil related,if the OP used the same oil
in both then that is one key constant, the strato charge washes
the oil off the piston, where it tight and needs it most, only certain oils will resist this,
those electrically attracted to metal.

I highly doubt the oil is being washed off by the strato ports.

 

[JustPlainJeff]

Subscribed to see how this pans out, or if the OP ever comes back to answer question or post pics.

 

[Andyshine77]

The very first 462's were cracking around the bar studs when with longer bars, the case was soon beefed up. Other than a run of bad pistons, not much is out there on 462's biting the dust early.

Big case and piston updates recently, but not what I would call a redesign.

 

[Andyshine77]

Stihl re designed them for a reason, I agree with Stihl on that, I believe the newer version
will be what the first should have been. The ghosting that takes place and the wear on the
Stihl pistons in those strato saws was not normal, am sure Stihl know this, and are working
on the solutions, the 462 re design was not for no reason.

It is not clear why the OP blew up two of them yet, more detail will reveal
the most likely cause. my theory is its oil related,if the OP used the same oil
in both then that is one key constant, the strato charge washes
the oil off the piston, where it tight and needs it most, only certain oils will resist this,
those electrically attracted to metal.

I have been seeing that on pistons for as long as I've been working on saws, some do it worse than others. Real thick ester oils help a little, but those oils also tend to inhibit combustion a bit.

 

[Jeffkrib]

https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/stihl-ms-462-c-mFound this on the interwebs, wonder if the redesign will address this issue too?

 

[Canyon Angler]

Dat's gone leave a welt

 

[EchoRomeoCharlie]

First post, lack of pertinent information, brand bashing...

Troll thread.

 

[cuinrearview]

Lol here they come

 

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[Czed]

 

[Fatherwheels]

I have been seeing that on pistons for as long as I've been working on saws, some do it worse than others. Real thick ester oils help a little, but those oils also tend to inhibit combustion a bit.

That would be my take, with my limited knowledge. My guess is the strato charge
has no oil in it, just clean air, so even if it did not wash it was not adding any lube either.