Mastermind
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I am. On my third quart.
661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?
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I am. On my third quart.
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Keith
Opinion ???
Trx250r180
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you must cut a lot of wood
Mastermind
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Very, very good oil. Clean burning, nearly no smell, and it tunes as it should. I can't believe I handicapped my saws with the Belray H1R, but that is how it seems. With the 2R in Jon's 562XP, it's like the saw found a whole new level of performance......
Trx250r180
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Have you sampled that other stuff yet ?
hardpan
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2r. Always looking for improvement and this one comes cheap. 32:1?
Mastermind
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No Brian, I want to just run this 2R for a few months. That's the best way for me to really decide if I like a certain oil. If I switch around too much I'll never be able to give a fair evaluation.
Don't take my word for anything. I recommended H1R because it protected well, I didn't realize it was holding back some saws. Even our MS150T runs much better on 2R.
hardpan
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I used H1R on your preference. Now eyes were opened on this mammoth thread, opinions changed, and we are all better for it. It's all good. How's that go, "We have to break a few eggs to make an omelet."
redbull660
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Well I've been running 45:1 Motul 800 off road and my saw hasn't blown up yet...
Ran it with the 41" and 36" bar. No issues. Still think it comes down to oil make up.
http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/661-36-vs-41-cannon-bar-video.282053/
http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/661-with-41-cannon-super-bar-video.282024/
Hoping to do some timed cuts between 800 45:1 and 800 32:1 either tonight or tomorrow.
Ran it with the 41" and 36" bar. No issues. Still think it comes down to oil make up.
http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/661-36-vs-41-cannon-bar-video.282053/
http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/661-with-41-cannon-super-bar-video.282024/
Hoping to do some timed cuts between 800 45:1 and 800 32:1 either tonight or tomorrow.
Motul is good stuff. I've burnt 2 liters of it since last summer. All the way down to 25:1 and never less than about 32:1. K2 is about the same and I'm on the 2nd liter of it. I guess the next will be some Mobil 2t.
Red, what do you mean by makeup?
redbull660
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ok boyz... I'm gearing up for the oil test. Need to raise some cash to buy the carbide chains, so I'm selling some stuff...
If you want to pitch in, pitch in by taking this stuff off my hands. Prices are more than fair.
http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/tsumura-bars-stihl-chains.282203/
http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/stihl-441-20-b-c.282074/
http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/stihl-661.282073/ Got 1 to many.
http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/new-stihl-461-25-bar-chain.282072/
If you want to pitch in, pitch in by taking this stuff off my hands. Prices are more than fair.
http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/tsumura-bars-stihl-chains.282203/
http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/stihl-441-20-b-c.282074/
http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/stihl-661.282073/ Got 1 to many.
http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/new-stihl-461-25-bar-chain.282072/
I am at a loss to understand why a new chain is needed for each test, it seems to be like putting on a new set of tyres on a test car each lap & that isn't done.
Thansk
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I would think a couple strokes with a file each time would be good enough . That is if you know how to hand file 
redbull660
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Tested it. It does make a difference and if you are going through all the hassle of buying the bars, the gas, the oil, finding the wood, prepping the wood, taking the time....it's the only way to be sure. But for the oil test im just going with carbides.
Assuming the new carbide cuts well. I gotta test it first.
I'd just touch up the chain for each run in a consistent manner and be done with it. And why carbide?
I think you will find carbide is pretty slow cutting stuff.
redbull660
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RD was so so. the new replacement RD3 in 3/8ths size chain is quite a bit faster. Tooth design is completely different now. RD is no longer available.
Carbide isn't going to change like regular chain can and does affect the times. Only problem I might encounter is RD3 only comes as a safety style chain with the humps on the dl's.
Main thing is I want to be absolutely sure so I do this testing stuff with as much military precision as I can. The worst thing that could happen is to question the test. Then I just wasted a lot of time and wood. Finding good wood and getting it ready is a chore.
Carbide isn't going to change like regular chain can and does affect the times. Only problem I might encounter is RD3 only comes as a safety style chain with the humps on the dl's.
Main thing is I want to be absolutely sure so I do this testing stuff with as much military precision as I can. The worst thing that could happen is to question the test. Then I just wasted a lot of time and wood. Finding good wood and getting it ready is a chore.
I would have thought just touching up the chain on a decent grinder after each test cut would have been sufficient, then going through the the different ratios, then coming back through the ratios to the start point again, that would average out any tooth length differences from the grinding.
Thansk
