Another tree id please

[bigwhiteash]

Woodman, now that you have it cut, take 5X magnification and look at the end grain after a quick slice with a razor blade. If the bands of pores are wavy, it's elm. Elm is stringy when split. Leaves of river birch have an angled base, elm and hophornbeam, the base is inequalateral[not symetrical]. Hophornbean is small and uncommon in NJ, the wood is yellowish in heartwood IME. JinNJ

 

[Deleted member 135597]

Ok I will get out there with some shaving cream, a bic razor and my big ass magnifying glass

Woodman, now that you have it cut, take 5X magnification and look at the end grain after a quick slice with a razor blade. If the bands of pores are wavy, it's elm. Elm is stringy when split. Leaves of river birch have an angled base, elm and hophornbeam, the base is inequalateral[not symetrical]. Hophornbean is small and uncommon in NJ, the wood is yellowish in heartwood IME. JinNJ[/QUO

 

[lone wolf]

Ok I will get out there with some shaving cream, a bic razor and my big ass magnifying glass

How about more pics of the whole tree so I can see the top?

 

[Deleted member 135597]

How about more pics of the whole tree so I can see the top?

I will try and get out there tomorrow. I can't go today.

 

[lone wolf]

I will try and get out there tomorrow. I can't go today.

OK I am thinking that would close the deal on the ID.

 

[Deleted member 135597]

hopefully it's not too crispy by then

 

[bigwhiteash]

I suppose it could be hackberry but I have no experience with it. Elm and hackberry are both ring porous and have a wavy look to the late pores; hop is diffuse porous. That should tell you something if you can cut a small sample pc and zoom in. JinNJ

 

[lone wolf]

hopefully it's not too crispy by then

No others near?

 

[Deleted member 135597]

I didn't walk around much. It's thick as hell in there. I will look though

 

[fixit1960]

I suppose it could be hackberry but I have no experience with it. Elm and hackberry are both ring porous and have a wavy look to the late pores; hop is diffuse porous. That should tell you something if you can cut a small sample pc and zoom in. JinNJ

Definitely not hackberry. Totally wrong bark.

 

[lone wolf]

Definitely not hackberry. Totally wrong bark.

I dont know why they dont believe it is Birch.

 

[blacklocst]

It's the same reason why I don't believe its Hop Hornbeam.

 

[Woody912]

It's the same reason why I don't believe its Hop Hornbeam.

same reason I believe it is a slippery elm

 

[blacklocst]

same reason I believe it is a slippery elm

Just looked at some Slippery Elm leaves and they look similar to the OP's. At this point im leaning towards Slippery Elm.

 

[fixit1960]

I dont know why they dont believe it is Birch.

I'm not going to pretend I know if it is or isn't birch. We don' t have that many in Iowa. River birch is all I'm familiar with. I have cut a lot of hackberry and have taught the Scouts tree id and that's a prominent one in eastern Iowa. The tree the op posted a pick of is not hackberry.

 

[Full Chisel]

Sure looks like a slippery elm to me. The bark doesn't look quite right but it's highly variable in elms.

 

[fixit1960]

I've looked at pictures of all the suggestions and I'm thinking black cherry now. Bark is a little off but not near as much as trying to claim it as an elm. If I could have seen a picture of the entire tree from a distance I could have id'd it if it was a black cherry. See a lot of those in the woods here. Another one that has a distinctive bark. Was it forked about a 1/3 of the way up? That's another black cherry trait.

 

[Full Chisel]

No way that is a black cherry...I could see a similarity in the bark pattern but the end grain and leaves are all wrong.

 

[lone wolf]

I've looked at pictures of all the suggestions and I'm thinking black cherry now. Bark is a little off but not near as much as trying to claim it as an elm. If I could have seen a picture of the entire tree from a distance I could have id'd it if it was a black cherry. See a lot of those in the woods here. Another one that has a distinctive bark. Was it forked about a 1/3 of the way up? That's another black cherry trait.

Its not. The leaves on Black Cherry are different. The bark may fool some though.

 

[Deleted member 135597]

can't get back out there again today. hopefully tomorrow.