No, Fred/Doug if you said something inline with generally accepted principals there would be no arguement. But ya, go out on a limb and make claims without backing them up with even the weekest of references, calculations or any sort of scientific reasoning, and yes, you might meet a little resistance when it come to claiming stuff like you and Fred have been.
I would be the first to admit that any sort of conceptual or mathimatical model is not going to be perfect, and science is an ever changing study. Civilization, once thought the world was flat and everything revolved arround it, and humans could never take flight, then when they did, they could never pass the speed of sound... But as we gain more indepth understanding of things, we develop a more accurate preception of them, and things that we thought to be impossible become possible.
Don't take it all personal, but you have been offering nothing of substance to support your position. I have offered several tech articals, quotes from text books written by experts in the field, some mathmatical modeling right down to the whole process, even a couple videos... I guess you are still are convinced the earth is flat and everything revolves around you too.
Oh well, I have no interest in changing your mind, or teaching cats to sing, and anyone with the slightest twinkle of scientific reasoning or critical thinking would quickly see your pumping junk science at best.
If the law is on your side argue the law, if the facts are on your side argue the facts, if absolutly nothing is on your side, just argue.
I suspect you guys are working from the later.
I have said my bit, put more than enough substance on the table to back up my reasoning, and have much better things to do than continue with this recreational arguement simply to pleasure you.