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rusty929

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Hi all, I have for many years had a passion for all things mechanical, and collect everything from old stationery and steam engines to old marine engines and outboard motors, as well as all the associated literature and items like tools and oil cans that go along with it. Now it seems I have developed an interest in old chainsaws, something I have always found interesting but never bothered to collect. How may of us wish we had shown an interest years earlier when they were cheaper and more plentiful...
I have just found and joined the forum after googling for info on my not-that-old 32cc Ryobi Chainsaw.
I bought her a few years ago at a swapmeet for $10 with no spark, in the box was a new Oregon bar and chain so it was a bargain even without the powerplant!
We don't have a wood fire and have had no need for a chainsaw in the past so it got put away and forgotten, however we now want to remove some trees which are too large to cut down by hand and too small to justify paying a specialist, so I dug out the little Ryobi and decided to investigate why it wouldn't spark. I found the coil to be faulty, so I started searching online for a replacement part but the model RGS 3214 (Ryobi Garden Saw 32cc 14") doesn't show up anywhere. Ryobi don't recognise it any longer and their agents were no help at all. After noticing the Alpina name on the magneto coil and Made in Italy on both the coil and flywheel, I thought I'd google "Alpina 32cc chainsaws" and came across a thread here which showed a Castor 300 which looked identical, and a mention that Castor and Alpina were in fact the same company. Further searching found that these were also branded as a Remington Mighty Mite, and here in Australia (with green plastic, not red) as Ryobis. All later model Ryobi chainsaws look to be of their own design, so I now think my saw is probably from the late 1980s to early 1990s. I have since found a seller in the UK who can supply a new after market coil however at almost 50UKpounds I am hoping someone here can direct me to an American seller who has more realistic prices. Intersetingly I see there is a Remington saw of the same model for sale on ebay at the moment, which also has no spark, add to this the fact that my saw is in very near new condition in every respect and spotless inside the covers, I suspect these models may have had some coil issues?? I'll post some photos of the various aliases of this saw after my unit is re-assembled.
Any help with sourcing a relacement coil would be much appreciated.

I also have a large collection of photos of old chainsaws taken at numerous vintage machinery rallies here in Australia, which I'll post in the future as I'm sure some of the makes and models may not be well known in America.
 
There is a shop on Glen Osmond road in Adelaide that sells Alpina parts. It might be worth giving them a call.

Thanks, I actually found "Power Mowers" last night from the Alpina websites dealer locator, however the email address listed doesn't work, I'll phone them during the week as I now have an Alpina model and a part number to reference.
 
welcome to AS

If you will be patient these guys on AS will help out any way they can .:msp_thumbup: Best group of guys on this planet. Some a little
opinionated or maybe I should say "convinced":msp_w00t: but aren't we all?:hmm3grin2orange:


Oh yeah ,seems you found the BEST way to get on their good side ,PICS of old saws.nice
 
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If you will be patient these guys on AS will help out any way they can .:msp_thumbup: Best group of guys on this planet. Some a little
opinionated or maybe I should say "convinced":msp_w00t: but aren't we all?:hmm3grin2orange:


Oh yeah ,seems you found the BEST way to get on their good side ,PICS of old saws.nice

If that's all it takes to please people then here are a few more pics.
 
Ok, I think you like the pics, even if I'm not fluent in forum lingo yet.

Update on my Ryobi (Alpina) saw, and a big thanks to Costin Mowers & Outdoor Power Equipment in Willaston SA costinmowers dot com dot au
I was passing by while running errands for work and called in to see if they could help me with an ignition coil, the owner (Derek I think?) was very friendly and knowledgeable, and he generously handed me a used Walbro coil that looked like a match. Upon trying to fit it I found the mounting holes were approx 1mm to far away from the flywheel so that if I forced the screws in there was no air-gap between the coil and f/wheel. With nothing to lose I grabbed my Dremil and a small carbide burr and carefully slotted the holes a little more, then re-fitted the coil with a suitable clearance. As a test before re-assembling I spun the engine over with a drill and she sparked like new. Last thing to do is to make an air filter tomorrow then she's ready for action again.

While at Costins I had a look at the new saws they had, and asked a few questions about some of the cheaper models just in case my saw was done, and was enlitened to find out that a well known "brand name" saw which I was considering buying as it was on sale for $299 down from $399, was in fact a cheap Chinese made saw that didn't even have a carby with mixture adjusting screws or other common features of todays saws. He then pointed out a Chinese saw he stocked which was $249 (not on sale) which had more features and better performance than the one I had previously considered. I guess that's why you should speak to the specialist who chooses what he sells (and services), rather than just listen to the salesman at the tool shop which only sells the one brand.
It is sad to see that even the established brands have been forced by ignorant consumers to put their name on cheap crap just to have a comparatively priced unit to sell. It wasn't that long ago that consumers would question why something was cheap before buying it, and the good brands wouldn't dare jeopardise their reputations by offering inferior products...
 
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Alpina / Castor / Remington / Ryobi (Re-Branding)

Update 2,
The next morning with the re-assembly completed and a foam air filter cut I attempted to start my saw, just a few pulls of the cord and she fired-up and sounded good, after a few seconds the choke was eased off, the idle adjusted to sustain running without throttle, and the low-speed mixture screw was adjusted (unfortunately this Walbro carby doesn't have a high-speed screw...
All was fine at lower RPM but she wouldn't keep running at full throttle, so apart it came again to check the carby and fit a used Alpina coil I had sourced from "Power Mower Services" after having to slot the holes of the Walbro coil to make it fit. The carby looked fine so I suspect the ignition timing may have been a little-off with the incorrect coil?? Anyway it worked out well as I found and was able to replace a damaged bar-oiler line I hadn't noticed before while it was apart again. Re-assembled once again and she started and ran perfectly!

Today the first tree came down and became a wood pile in no-time, two more to remove tomorrow (one about 15' high and 15" at the base of its trunk) so the little Ryobi will get a good workout!
I took some photos before I got it dirty, and made a collage to show some of the other aliases of the "Alpina 330 chainsaw" (sorry I have no pics of the Alpina itself).
It's interesting to see the many small differences between the models, such as;
Air Filter Cover shape and mounting points, the various different throttle triggers and Locks, absence of a chain brake on the RMM500 (400 & 600 have this), adjustable bar-oil feed on my saw only, and even the hand gaurd and ribs moulded into the Castor and Ryobi only. Also note the 2.3ci capacity of the Remingtons (37.7cc up from 32cc)
 

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