i might be doing a bone head move here so flame me

[7sleeper]

What about those of us using canned fuel? I'm running the Husky 50:1 premix in my AT saws, and TruFuel 50:1 in all my other saws and 2-stroke equipment. Should I be adding oil to get to 40:1 or 32:1?

Actually of the tested premix fuel, the major players (Aspen, Motomix, Husqvarna XP), only Aspen had 2% oil inside.
http://www.kwf-online.de/deutsch/pruef/pruefergebnisse/aagw/sonderkraftstoffe/

Stihl and Husqvarna only had 1,6%!!!! oil inside!

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[cus_deluxe]

Nobody for AMSoil? Maybe its a regional preference but thats all i use. I have worked with all varieties of OPE for the last 20 years at golf courses and on my own and both high end courses i worked at run amsoil saber in all air cooled 2stroke stuff (including chainsaws) at 80:1 with no problems and only one weedeater that died due to a clogged fuel filter and a brainless operator that continued to run it lean and restart until it finally died. I will say none of the saws are modded in any way and that certainly makes a difference. If ported and all that then yes, run 50:1 or lower ratio, but for a stock saw i see no reason to go buy high quality oil and mix at 32:1 or 40:1. I have dozens of tanks of fuel through my 340 and it has been all with amsoil at 70:1. P+c look brand new. very little carbon, 4strokes at a respectable rpm. i dont see the problem

 

[Jameson]

The echo power blend x is like $8 for 16oz bottle at home depot. I love this oil.

Measures easy with the pre measured squeeze bottle. Why do you guys buy the small individual use bottles at such a premium?

 

[cory@owen]

The echo power blend x is like $8 for 16oz bottle at home depot. I love this oil.

Measures easy with the pre measured squeeze bottle. Why do you guys buy the small individual use bottles at such a premium?

Be careful with those squeeze bottles. IMO they are inaccurate.

 

[Jameson]

Im sorry but i just tested my squeeze bottle, it is accurate. I don't really see how one could be otherwise unless it was damaged in some way.

 

[7sleeper]

Be careful with those squeeze bottles. IMO they are inaccurate.

I err on the plus side.

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[angelo c]

128(oz in a gallon) divide by the ratio you want say 32:1. 128/32=4 so 4oz for 32:1

What are ya one a dem 'Rain Man' math geniuses ???

Dem r sum big numbers to be multiplied in my little head ???

 

[angelo c]

i might be doing a bone head move here so flame me
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Scott, of all people, I thought you'd know all about lube bro.

50:1? Hell no!

Sooooo. HAWT !!!!!

 

[angelo c]

I err on the plus side.

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So does Gas guerrilla.....see post 100 above.....mmmm she a biggin

 

[Section VIII]

It's information like in this thread that gets me frustrated. Maybe it's my military background and doing what the manual says. If the manual says (recommends) to use a certain ratio (50:1) in both my Stihl and Echo tools, why wouldn't that be the proper amount? Same with the damn ethanol vs non-ethanol.

My truck (2010 Ram 1500) manual recommends 89 Octane with no more than 10% ethanol. So guess what? That's what I use!

Just change the damn manual for those of us who trust what the manual for a product recommends! Sheesh.

 

[angelo c]

It's information like in this thread that gets me frustrated. Maybe it's my military background and doing what the manual says. If the manual says (recommends) to use a certain ratio (50:1) in both my Stihl and Echo tools, why wouldn't that be the proper amount? Same with the damn ethanol vs non-ethanol.

My truck (2010 Ram 1500) manual recommends 89 Octane with no more than 10% ethanol. So guess what? That's what I use!

Just change the damn manual for those of us who trust what the manual for a product recommends! Sheesh.

EPA Regs Vs. manufacturers and engineers designs.
Why does Chevy sell the Volt when it costs $100,000 each to manufacture and yet they sell it for $50k...

Govt Regs

 

[KenJax Tree]

To each their own....so do as you please

Being in the military you should know how the Government works.

 

[Section VIII]

To each their own....so do as you please

Being in the military you should know how the Government works.

Well, in the military, we get reprimanded (sometimes dishonorably discharged--depending on the severity) for not following the manual to the tee.

 

[Miles86]

Hey Y'all-

Finally getting to the firewood this year, so I found this oil thread since I just made up my premix.

Ever wondered why Stihl Ultra is jaso FB rather than FD?
FB, FC, and FD refer to standards of smoke, lubricity, deposits, and detergency
jaso M340, M341,M342,M343
http://lubrizol.com/MCEO/Spec-Check/JASO-M345-Two-Stroke.html

Stihl Ultra is does not meet the smoke requirement (M342 test), but passes all the other 3 tests (for jaso FD, but can't state that).

Just some trivia . I have resisted buying any new oil this year.
my 2 cycle fuel recipe:
93 octane no ethanol - 1 gallon
+ Motul 800 - 6 ounces
+ Blendzall 455 ultra - 0.5 ounce
----------------------------
= 20:1 - no deposits plus smells good.

 

[1Alpha1]

If there was ever an organization that needed a manual, it would be the US military.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Why 20:1?

 

[BBP]

Hey Y'all-

Finally getting to the firewood this year, so I found this oil thread since I just made up my premix.

Ever wondered why Stihl Ultra is jaso FB rather than FD?
FB, FC, and FD refer to standards of smoke, lubricity, deposits, and detergency
jaso M340, M341,M342,M343
http://lubrizol.com/MCEO/Spec-Check/JASO-M345-Two-Stroke.html

Stihl Ultra is does not meet the smoke requirement (M342 test), but passes all the other 3 tests (for jaso FD, but can't state that).

Just some trivia . I have resisted buying any new oil this year.
my 2 cycle fuel recipe:
93 octane no ethanol - 1 gallon
+ Motul 800 - 6 ounces
+ Blendzall 455 ultra - 0.5 ounce
----------------------------
= 20:1 - no deposits plus smells good.

Where did you find the individual test results? I searched & can't find anything. There's quite a bit of difference between FB & FD.

 

[555JM]

Why 20:1?

Dual purpose: Chainsaw and smoke screen generator. So he won't get shot at while sawing.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Dual purpose: Chainsaw and smoke screen generator. So he won't get shot at while sawing.

Yeah i suppose that would keep the skeeters away too

 

[GrassGuerilla]

I'm curious. What does the manual for a new 372 recommend in say Australia, or perhaps the Asian market? I've read on here somewhere that they recommend much richer than our EPA mandated 50:1.



Edit: from the Husqvarna Aus website OM.