He'd better figure it outAmen to that..I like my dealer but the new mtronic equipment is not for him...lol
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He'd better figure it outAmen to that..I like my dealer but the new mtronic equipment is not for him...lol
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Still haven't seen a 441cm on his shelves and this saw has been out for some time...He'd better figure it outIt going to be all M-tronic Stihl pro saws here pretty quick.
He'd better figure it outIt going to be all M-tronic Stihl pro saws here pretty quick.
It kills me when people are M-tronic adverse, we've sold a ton of 441's and haven't had one issue with even one, the biggest customer base are the Amish loggers in our area and if anyone could kill them they could. People don't realize that the test bed was the old MS 280, just one solenoid, instead of both sides.
I've had and have 044's,440's, stock and modded 460's and have took a 461 out of the shop and played with it for about a month, for the money I'll take the 441, I love the 044/440 but you can't the antivibe and smoothness of the 441, I couldn't justify the price difference between the 461 and 441, you could own a modded 441 for the price of a 461. As far as I'm concerned the M-tronics are bulletproof.
Wouldn't be a surprice at all, it was more of a surprice that it wasn't at the outset.....Word at my last Stihl class is that all Stihl pro saws will be going M-tronic. Considering that the whole pro line except for the 461 is M-tronic now, I bet it's next.
I keep hearing that the 441cm is a real fat ass saw. I do not have a lot of experience with big saws and have been racking my brain trying to determine what will be my next saw (70-75cc range). I went to a local dealer who sells them all (Stihl, Husky, Jonsered, Echo) and started picking them up and getting a feel for them. The 441CM felt more natural in hand than the 576XP and the 372XP. It was leaps and bounds lighter than the ms461 and the 395XP on the shelf as well. I can not make up my mind. I love Husqvarnas, but the 441cm continue to impress me. I may just have to keep waiting to see if the 576XP replacement will be a tie breaker.
Husqvarna 576xp AT has an open cover.Stihl Dealer support is non-existent for 100% of all the dealers I've been to. Sell you another saw or charge you $55-$75/hr for repair and exorbitant part prices. Pick the bum rush of your choice. The only thing i will give stihl is that they are the only saw manufacturer with the "west coast" style clutch cover that helps when noodling.
Before I bought my MS441RCM, I talked to a few local dealers and one of them said he does not carry the m-tronic saws because the people that buy these size saws want something that is tried and true, mainly loggers(that was last year, he could be selling the crap out of these now). I think they might be right to some extent. These m-tronic saws have not been out long enough to see how well they hold up after years of use. How long have they been out?
That is what had me on the fence about buying this saw. I wanted a saw that will give me years of trouble free service. I am not sure this saw will do that for me especially with how we use it. And when something does go wrong with the m-tronic part, it could get really expensive. Don't get me wrong, I love the saw and would not hesitate to buy one again but I am just a little worried about years down the road. When I buy something, I intend to keep it for a good while.
I am not stihl fanboy, but I read all the threads here, and don't recall a "failed mtronic" thread yet. Might have been one, but right off hand I don't remember one. Not sure if the pro loggers/firewood guys/tree climbers all read the chainsaw forum religiously or not, but you could just ask in a new thread "How long has your 441mtronic lasted in day to day *professional* use".
Basically both stihl and husky are eventually going to have all their stuff some sort of electronically controlled, so very quickly now, the point will be moot if you want a brande new saw. Personally, I would trust a well built good solid state device over my crappy ears in tuning! HAHAHAHAHA I go to where the H sounds good, then a scosh richer for insurance. That is not a real good tune, but it is the best I can do right now.
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