Lakeside53
Stihl Wrenching
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I expected a more fish-esque response to s setup like that!
I expected a more fish-esque response to s setup like that!
Ok, you be the judge
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RED-85-Z51
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What I commonly see is people pour their gas out of a saw, into an old Oil container, clean the saw, replace fuel line, whatever...then pour the gas back into the saw.
The suspended plastic particals begin to deposit themselves inside the carb, making the saw lean out...in severe cases the little screen in the carb will clog up and make the saw not start.
Folks...glass jar, or a gas can...thats how you store gas temporarily.
Lakeside53 said:
The Stihl "Ultra" is about the best thing going, besides MX2T.
Fish
Tree Freak
What, the word "jugs" and "milk" triggered some forgotton memories, eh???
You expect me to be silly on every post?
A funny sidenote though, Walt Galer quizzed me on the milkjug effect a
long time ago, and he took the issue and ran with it, preaching bout it,
inserting that as a possible cause for saw failures on threads, etc.
Another Walt, on that other forum, stole my procedure on diagnosing
a blown head gasket on OHV engines, but I digress...........
Dennis Cahoon
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No "good" thread should be without Fish's favorite picture of Gypo Logger. It always adds to a thread that's reverted back to old stories of Walt Galer. Please don't bump up.....Will the real logger please standup.
spacemule
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Cahoon, you REALLY need to stop posting that picture.
No "good" thread should be without Fish's favorite picture of Gypo Logger. It always adds to a thread that's reverted back to old stories of Walt Galer. Please don't bump up.....Will the real logger please standup.
Reminds me of the "blipping throttle" thread.
Joat
ford832
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Eeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuwwwwwwwwww........a Stihl head:jester:
Fish
Tree Freak
If my favorite tool was that size, I would be bending over too!!!!
windthrown
361 Junkie
Sawed... Sod??? Ah, never mind... that picture could have 1,000 captions.
As my niece would say, "That's gay!"
As my niece would say, "That's gay!"
Fish
Tree Freak
He is not really gay, just open minded..............
Simonizer
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I heard he's trisexual. (He'll try anything)
Fish
Tree Freak
bringing this one back for the new guy.
XJWoody
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Six pages of roundabout, one mostly nekkid logger
, and no clear resolution to the crisis at hand... did you end up fixin the man's 310 or what? Did they warranty it? Did you eat the parts? Did they taste like chicken? We gots to know!
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PES+
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He got the new gas can......used the new oil and mixed it with that gas he had in a 5 gallon jug that was already 6 months old or so.
The piston damage is from too much Dork-O sealant on the case halves which I believe I see smeared on the piston and also in the piston pin unless you got it in there on tear down feesh.........
Running the bad gas may have contributed to the demise by added heat but the real culprit is the sloppy seal job.
I have seen a couple very similar but out of warranty and not 310s but the same style construction.
He got the new gas can......used the new oil and mixed it with that gas he had in a 5 gallon jug that was already 6 months old or so.
The piston damage is from too much Dork-O sealant on the case halves which I believe I see smeared on the piston and also in the piston pin unless you got it in there on tear down feesh.........
Running the bad gas may have contributed to the demise by added heat but the real culprit is the sloppy seal job.
I have seen a couple very similar but out of warranty and not 310s but the same style construction.
icelation8
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Yeah you're real intelligent like thats real deerko up there on the piston pin thats why its gold in color and that tells you that its actually fuel deposits. Real sloppy seal job though you are absolutley right.
Fish
Tree Freak
When you get my age, a sloppy seal job is still better than none at all......
The Stihl rep approved the warranty, Stihl paid it, the guy has his saw, he
is happy. The deaership that I worked for then got his money, the owner
there is happy. This saw was the start of new ideas for me,
so I am happy.....................
Or am I???
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Yes, is was bad gas that caused the failure. The dirko was sloppy.
I have seen a lot of poor factory work on that series of saw, since I
have been dis-assembling them all winter. Been getting real quick at it too.
The Stihl rep approved the warranty, Stihl paid it, the guy has his saw, he
is happy. The deaership that I worked for then got his money, the owner
there is happy. This saw was the start of new ideas for me,
so I am happy.....................
Or am I???
..............................
Yes, is was bad gas that caused the failure. The dirko was sloppy.
I have seen a lot of poor factory work on that series of saw, since I
have been dis-assembling them all winter. Been getting real quick at it too.
PES+
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This pic
Blow it up after you open it.......look at the end of the piston pin and then look at the red smear on the piston.
http://www.arboristsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=59962&d=1195259576
The dirko on the pin may be from diassembly as I said..but the smear on the piston unless it is just a weird reflection looks like some what I have seen...and not just in Stihls.
Also in the bottom of the case shell it looks like a piece of sealant right to the right of the oil puddle.
again you need to zoom to see it
http://www.arboristsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=59961&d=1195258923
And I won't argue at all regarding my lack of intelligence....I haven't been the same since they moved my cheese
Blow it up after you open it.......look at the end of the piston pin and then look at the red smear on the piston.
http://www.arboristsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=59962&d=1195259576
The dirko on the pin may be from diassembly as I said..but the smear on the piston unless it is just a weird reflection looks like some what I have seen...and not just in Stihls.
Also in the bottom of the case shell it looks like a piece of sealant right to the right of the oil puddle.
again you need to zoom to see it
http://www.arboristsite.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=59961&d=1195258923
And I won't argue at all regarding my lack of intelligence....I haven't been the same since they moved my cheese
Fish
Tree Freak
Well, what can I say?
The broken down fuel was cooked down to a reddish caramel/mollasses, if
a stray bead of sealant may or maynot have fell in the puddle of goo.
It took a lot of soaking of the pieces to get the goo off, they only warrantied
the bearings and seals and piston/cyl, they wouldn't go with the crank.
In the goo removal, I saw no signs of Dirko-damage. Also they covered
a new fuel line/filter, as they were screwed. Never could get the putrid
smell out of the tank though. Went through the carb too.
The broken down fuel was cooked down to a reddish caramel/mollasses, if
a stray bead of sealant may or maynot have fell in the puddle of goo.
It took a lot of soaking of the pieces to get the goo off, they only warrantied
the bearings and seals and piston/cyl, they wouldn't go with the crank.
In the goo removal, I saw no signs of Dirko-damage. Also they covered
a new fuel line/filter, as they were screwed. Never could get the putrid
smell out of the tank though. Went through the carb too.
