Please critique my Square filing

[CaseyForrest]

Kevin, if I PM you my email, can you send me that file that has the angle and terms?????

Steve, thats cool. I did buy a 361 from bcorradi here, its coming with a Stihl 20" and a brand new 18" GB Ti bar. SO I wont be short a bar. But still would like to have the 16" be my main bar for it.

I had some money in my paypal account, untill today. I will have more when my 460 sells. how much do you want me to send you?

 

[04ultra]

Casey that is all on madsens web site..http://www.madsens1.com/sub4.htm

 

[John Ellison]

I deleted my post above. After looking at the illus. again I realized I was wrong and had it backwards.:blush:

 

[CaseyForrest]

The file will take care of it, just gotta have the angle right....part of the learning pains.

for my quicker chains I try to keep the outside side plate at 85 degrees, the top plate at 25-30 degrees, the inside side plate at about 30 degrees. The inside top plate will be thinner, making for a chain that doesn't last as long, that is why I use these rough numbers for my play chains.

Madsens page with the angles work well for work chains, I just find myself using more aggressive angles.

-Steve

Now you have me all screwed up!!!! If your files angles cant be changed, and you are running 90 degrees on your outside side plate, wont that dictate your other angles as well?

Or does changing your outside top plate angle change everything else?

 

[CaseyForrest]

Casey that is all on madsens web site..http://www.madsens1.com/sub4.htm

Hey, thanks Ultra!!

 

[04ultra]

Hey, thanks Ultra!!

Your welcome.. Go there and read ..Dont come back till you read the whole web site..:rockn:

 

[Freakingstang]

Now you have me all screwed up!!!! If your files angles cant be changed, and you are running 90 degrees on your outside side plate, wont that dictate your other angles as well?

Bingo, but the key is to change the angle of the file to meet one or more of the angles you want to change and still keep the other angles the same.

Or does changing your outside top plate angle change everything else?

If you are holding the file the exact way as the way you did when you made the first set of angles, then yes it will change everything else. But it is all in the file angle placement....

I've got some chains that have a 35 degree top plate, and a 90 degree outside side plate. It is all in the placement of the file.

Did that confuse you, or make any more sense of the muddy waters? lol

 

[ShoerFast]

Now you have me all screwed up!!!! If your files angles cant be changed, and you are running 90 degrees on your outside side plate, wont that dictate your other angles as well?

Or does changing your outside top plate angle change everything else?

There is a chance that this won't nail it at my first try, but changing the file to cut the out-side top plate from 90 - 85, should change the inside top plate from 50 - 45 deg. (or so)

Same for the inside top plate and the out-side top plate,,,,,,,

But a good place to start, is just keep the file just off the tie-strap and make sure the file disects excatly the working corner, use a Sharpie or Magic-marker to see were your file is removing metal and adjust your file and pressure to the working corner stay consistant.

There is not much you can do to make it cut slower then round filed chain, work to make it cut smothly and it will work out.

Kevin

 

[CaseyForrest]

My F**kin head hurts.

 

[CaseyForrest]

Hey, Kevin, Steve, thanks for all your help!! Just want to get that out while I am still capable!!

I think I got the jist of it. That diagram from Madsens will help allot in getting a good base going, and from there I can play around.

What files do you all use? Are there different files with different angles? or all they all standard? I got 2 Vallorbe files when I bought the chains.

 

[ShoerFast]

My F**kin head hurts.

Thats good, that means it's regerstering with me.

Keep the working corner first, the angles will fallow.

The working corner is the nutz to the square filed chain.

 

[CaseyForrest]

Wally, I see ya lurking down there. We may have to gtg and try this out.

 

[CaseyForrest]

Thats good, that means it's regerstering with me.

Keep the working corner first, the angles will fallow.

The working corner is the nutz to the square filed chain.

That does seem to be the factor that ties everything together.

 

[manual]

Boy I sure missed alot One day you were hand filling and now I see you have a grinder.
Yep you got the bug bad.

 

[04ultra]

Casey read the whole site there will be a test on everything on that site study hard..

 

[CaseyForrest]

Boy I sure missed alot One day you were hand filling and now I see you have a grinder.
Yep you got the bug bad.

No grinder. what gave you that impression?

 

[CaseyForrest]

Casey read the whole site there will be a test on everything on that site study hard..

huh huh huh....he said hard..hahuhaha

 

[ShoerFast]

Casey read the whole site there will be a test on everything on that site study hard..

Yes,

Good site!

 

[04ultra]

Casey you think were kidding around..Were here to learn you something so you can kick butt at the next GTG..

 

[CaseyForrest]

Casey you think were kidding around..Were here to learn you something so you can kick butt at the next GTG..

If Rick or EJ show up, whats the point???!!

Im not building a race chain....yet....It will probably take me a full day to get this square thing nailed down. My wife is gonna be pissed!!!