the official arborist site work saw build off

[srcarr52]

Going down the list of times it was easy to see who had what....based on the time and the size of the wood.

Some of the saws was 2 seconds faster than the others in a 16'' log,,,, then the same saw was 2 seconds slower than the others in a 20'' log. I guess thats the way horsepower and torque work out :msp_confused:.

Can someone publish all the data? It would be nice to know if your saw did better in the larger or small wood. Also some statistics can be drawn on each piece of wood to find out if you had a knot in your cut or if you got a clean piece.

If someone could send me the data I would be happy to run the stats and make it available to everyone.

 

[Simonizer]

Average time per log Oak, size 18.5" (Log Sizes ranged from 15" to 22" )


Builder Owner

#1 Treeslinger 11.338 Cowroy
#2 TreeMonkey 11.408
#3 Komatsuvara 11.783
#4 Simonizer 11. 916 r2"ed
#5 BSnelling 11.936 Nmurph
#6 Tlandrum 12.098
#7 Mdavelee 12.318 Wendell
#8 Eric Copsey 12.498 Hillbilly22
#9 Mdavelee 12.596
#10 BSnelling 12.849
#11SrCarr52 13.298
#12STUMP HUSKY 13.312 Hedgerow
#13Eric Copsey 13.447
#14TLandrum 13.851 Chris J
#15 STUMPIESTER 13.913 Firefighter
#16 lOGGING22 14.930
#17 Stumpy 15.053
#18 Subhunter 16.114
#19 BarneyRB 16.573
#20 Mweba 22.502 Little Possum


Copied from R2d post in other thread.

It is amazing how close the top 6 were. I think we should find out how much Terry went in the red and help him out. I was not there but count me in.

 

[srcarr52]

I think we should find out how much Terry went in the red and help him out. I was not there but count me in.

I agree, I will be willing to donate.

 

[WoodChuck'r]

Terry let us know how much you want. I wasn't there but I'll make a contribute for the cause.....

 

[komatsuvarna]

Can someone publish all the data? It would be nice to know if your saw did better in the larger or small wood. Also some statistics can be drawn on each piece of wood to find out if you had a knot in your cut or if you got a clean piece.

If someone could send me the data I would be happy to run the stats and make it available to everyone.

I think some of that data got a little wet when the hurricane came through! LOL

 

[edisto]

Can someone publish all the data? It would be nice to know if your saw did better in the larger or small wood. Also some statistics can be drawn on each piece of wood to find out if you had a knot in your cut or if you got a clean piece.

If someone could send me the data I would be happy to run the stats and make it available to everyone.

I'd like to see it too. It seems like some groups form (e.g., the top 2, then the next 4), but it is impossible to tell without some idea of the variation. For bragging rights, the lowest average gets it, but it would be interesting to see how close the groupings are.

I think you'd run out of degrees of freedom looking on a cut by cut basis, but it would be interesting to see if the rank order changes consistently with wood size, and which saws stay at the top of the rankings regardless of wood size.

I think some of that data got a little wet when the hurricane came through! LOL

I'll donate a "Rite-in the Rain" notebook for the next buildoff!

Terry let us know how much you want. I wasn't there but I'll make a contribute for the cause.....

I'll contribute too. If I can afford ####ography, I can afford chainsaw voyeurism.

 

[tlandrum]

guys im good,i didnt do this for the money.just know that the ones that chipped in are well appreciated and that i am thankful to all that helped out at the gtg. im blessed with good friends and enough wealth to take care of my self and family needs. i done what i could to insure fun and fairness for all that participated and am grateful that my guests and friends took it upon themselves to give back in appreciation of my and my wifes efforts. riverrat2 (rick) had a big hand in the set up of the high top tent and tarping off the buildoff area. he showed up early on friday and helped out all weekend.ptjeep and stumpy hung out and helped out with breaking down the tent moving the tables getting a head start on clean up. theres lots of other folks that helped out that i havent mentioned ,you know who you are and thank you. beers one me(as some of you already know lol)

 

[parrisw]

seeing the result of how this went i can say my theory of you can only do so much to a work saw before it becomes a cookie cutter seems to hold true. or the saws would not have been so close together, there was not a run away victory ,its luck of the draw. the wood was not perfectly clear perfectly uniform symetrically sized lathe turned dry kiln butter wood. it was from the real worksaw world with the un uniformity that happens in hard woods. it was knotty with burls and bark. that is why we cut 5 different logs. dont think for one second that the results of this are the gospel. this was a work saw build cutting wood that was brought in from a real world logging job. to me the whole point of the build was that no matter who builds these saws, as long as they do good quality work,have a good repoor with the public they deal with, deliver in a timely manner and have a reasonable price it dont matter who builds it you can expect a good result.so in my opinion the haters out there that dont like this builder or that builder for what ever reason need to chill out. every dog has its day, build off day went to treeslinger. hats off here to jasha and his slingerized saw. ill get you next time

I like how you put things Terry! I couldn't of said it better.

 

[cowroy]

I am no expert video man, but here are a few for your viewing pleasure.
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[tlandrum]

#6 is barney rb

 

[Work Saw Collector]

I am no expert video man, but here are a few for your viewing pleasure.

Repped, thanks.

 

[husq2100]

I think seeing the times for all the cuts would be good......it only takes one bad cut time, whether it be wood, operator or what ever, to throw the averages out............

 

[mdavlee]

Nice job on the video. I think I seen my saw and wendells for sure. Wendells is video 25. Hillbilly22 is video 28. I think mine was video 16.

 

[tlandrum]

if there was a bad cut it was redone so rest assured jd done the best with each saw that it could do. this is not a science and i wont be posting further data for you guys to scrutinize. youll be seeing video,you have the results, it was broadcast live so i feel that no more investigation is needed. there were 3 people timing the cuts and when timing they were within tenths of a second of each other if not exactly the same. two of the timers were neutral party and the third is well vested in knowledge of how it is suppose to be done and has more experience than the rest of us combined. the totals were done by other neutral parties then rechecked by myself befor eposting the final data. it took 15 recorded times to get the average i have posted. for gods sake lets not take the fun out of it. :welcome:

 

[cowroy]

Here are the rest that I got cutting on the same piece of wood. We had 5 no shows and 1 catastrophic failure with a carb issue. you know which one is yours so just post up like terry did and I will change it on youtube.
[video=youtube;u-8MHJbWOds]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-8MHJbWOds[/video]
[video=youtube;PodtTGrCYfE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PodtTGrCYfE[/video]
[video=youtube;m5tx7tiLsVo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5tx7tiLsVo[/video]
[video=youtube;CFs5lmGzUa4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFs5lmGzUa4[/video]
[video=youtube;HyFiecXROYc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyFiecXROYc[/video]
[video=youtube;Iqqty5iJZRg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqqty5iJZRg[/video]
[video=youtube;GF0iGZzY3nI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF0iGZzY3nI[/video]
[video=youtube;mVcemsYeYQA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVcemsYeYQA[/video]

 

[Double A]

Was a stock version run also? Would be nice to make that comparison too!

 

[mdavlee]

Cowroy I think mine is labeled 6 there. Wendells is 9 and hillbilly22 is 10.

 

[cowroy]

The rest
[video=youtube;QVxpjg_AYx4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVxpjg_AYx4[/video]
[video=youtube;Q9JmKA1cz38]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9JmKA1cz38[/video]
[video=youtube;OCXgojVm-kY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCXgojVm-kY[/video]
[video=youtube;l5lDEbkR6k0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5lDEbkR6k0[/video]
[video=youtube;2youf1uy2x4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2youf1uy2x4[/video]
[video=youtube;tfPFr6lvyKA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfPFr6lvyKA[/video]

 

[tlandrum]

6 mdavlee
7 stumpy husky hedgerow
8blsnelling nmurph
9mdavlee wendell
10 eric copsey hillbilly22
11 subhunter
12 tlandrum
13mweba little possum
14eric copsey
15 tree monkey
16logging22
17stumpyhusky firfighter33
18stumpyhusky
19srcarr52

 

[Taxmantoo]

I am no expert video man, but here are a few for your viewing pleasure.
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Now these are two adjacent cuts in the same log, 1" apart, with the 5th or 10th place saw on top and the 1st place saw on the bottom? Looks like the one on top won, in that log, by a second or two. Impressive, especially if it was nmurph's mildly ported saw.

No wonder somebody said all the saws in the contest were great, especially if that was the 10th place saw.

I mean, if that was the 10th place saw I'm impressed that 10th and 1st place are that close, and if it's the 5th place saw I'm impressed that a saw with a flat top piston is that strong.