wedges in felling big'uns
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wiley_p
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Erik that looks like standard removal work by a proffessional, and your lay looks nice in the first picture, so with all those targets you size everything up and put yor face in the need to focus on your lead is not improtant, also your showing pictures that are a little diferent than timber falling you are constanly ripping branches and tops etc . Thats why a guy wants to focus on up higher, follow the fall. The original post was in the logging section.
MasterBlaster
TreeHouse Elder
Dam. Since my service pak 2 I just see alien cymbals.
MasterBlaster
TreeHouse Elder
techdave
ArboristSite Operative
thaks for all the info guys!
Howdy all, thanks for the info. I did not mean to start a border skirmish between you all. To clarify I am cutting dead trees, mostly spars in a severely burned area. I stole the wedge as symbol of tip trick from the Dancin with the Devil thread, but I aint using it in thsi dead stuff because I still got to look up for burned branches falling from the vibration and movement of the tree.
I spent all day in a recovery seminar yesterdy about how Cuyamaca Rancho State Park is recovering. Lots off good info on latest fire ecology. For example
suppression is a failure in SoCal mixed coniferoius forsest and conif-decid because 1-3 percent of fires will escape initial attack and turn into santa ana driven hell storms---the cedar fire grew 22,000 acres in ONE hour at about hour 8 . It went 22 miles westward btween early morning and afternoon. Good info on animal behavior. A collared mtn lion female, went about 10 miles south in her terrritory, towards the fire!! She did make a successful hunt but was later burned and died after going from 90 pounds to 60 pounds in 2 weeks from burns on her stomach.
As Wiley stated, this is a logging type workarea, except there sometimes is a well, or wall, or watertank that must be saved.
There will be bigger falls to come these 1-2 footers are just the tip of the iceberg. Most of the OLD trees are from 1894, but 170 to 224 year olds are common on the peaks, according to dendrochronologist yesterday at seminar. The District interpretive specialist holds to his guess of 500-700 years for his secret Coulter with 104 inch dbh, while I cant back that since the 224 year old from a nearby peak with similar soil was 84 inches.
thanks again, dave.
Howdy all, thanks for the info. I did not mean to start a border skirmish between you all. To clarify I am cutting dead trees, mostly spars in a severely burned area. I stole the wedge as symbol of tip trick from the Dancin with the Devil thread, but I aint using it in thsi dead stuff because I still got to look up for burned branches falling from the vibration and movement of the tree.
I spent all day in a recovery seminar yesterdy about how Cuyamaca Rancho State Park is recovering. Lots off good info on latest fire ecology. For example
suppression is a failure in SoCal mixed coniferoius forsest and conif-decid because 1-3 percent of fires will escape initial attack and turn into santa ana driven hell storms---the cedar fire grew 22,000 acres in ONE hour at about hour 8 . It went 22 miles westward btween early morning and afternoon. Good info on animal behavior. A collared mtn lion female, went about 10 miles south in her terrritory, towards the fire!! She did make a successful hunt but was later burned and died after going from 90 pounds to 60 pounds in 2 weeks from burns on her stomach. As Wiley stated, this is a logging type workarea, except there sometimes is a well, or wall, or watertank that must be saved.
There will be bigger falls to come these 1-2 footers are just the tip of the iceberg. Most of the OLD trees are from 1894, but 170 to 224 year olds are common on the peaks, according to dendrochronologist yesterday at seminar. The District interpretive specialist holds to his guess of 500-700 years for his secret Coulter with 104 inch dbh, while I cant back that since the 224 year old from a nearby peak with similar soil was 84 inches.
thanks again, dave.
wiley_p
ArboristSite Guru
What are you saying Erik, maybe this would not be the place for the "murphy" tapered hinge? Techdave, dont be to reluctant to use wedges on those snags, remember they are often pefectly balanced, if you wedge, tap lookup wait, tap lookup wait. Or if your from the east coast look in the direction of you lay and bang away. Ha Ha Ha ha ha ha.
Nickrosis
Manned by Boderators
I had a pull line and was plunge cutting. I knew it had structural issues...4 cracks were visible. No decay (red oak). What I didn't put together before I started cutting was the fact that I had a fraction of the hinge I expected I had.
The cracks were because of a split ages ago, and I didn't put it together....Oh well, it was in the woods.
I don't experiment like that on the job. Usually. daddieslilgirl
ArboristSite Member
some of your words i dont understand but when we were little the first rule we were taught in logging was ALWAYS look up! just my 2 cents
xander9727
The Silverback
Erik,
I'm gonna bet this won't go without a response. ROTFLMAO
wiley_p
ArboristSite Guru
well theres one thing thats roughly the same.Originally posted by netree
Naw. Simply that it won't hold any hinge as well as it would in green wood... on the east coast, anyways.
