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John Paul Sanborn

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Have him send you a demo to try out yourself like JPS is doing.

How is everyone storing and transporting it? I think I am going with the crate to keep it from falling over and getting wet on the ground. It fits nicely in the single size. Also when in the pickup bed I may lock it to a tiedown. Can't stand to take that kind of loss.

Is that a milk crate you'll use? Size looks right. i may have to steal one form the A&P :laugh:
 
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Don't get caught - our fund for bailing out demo-user and new owners of Wraptors who get nabbed filching milk crates is getting low...
 
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answer your own question...the wraptor was developed with input from members of which site?

Not sure how that answers my question but sorry....I thought Paul Cox invented the thing, That's who I just made my check out to. What part did you have input in?

and seriously...you resort to name calling.....a bit childish dontcha think?

I spent a little time on there and they were calling THEMSELVES "hacks" and taking pride in it, so....no....don't think it is childish.
 
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Hey Pal, all the treehousers had a big part in helping Paul with the final design. I was one of the first group that demoed the machine last February in NC. Before you resort to name calling and acting like an Ass you should get your facts straight.

Paul designed it no doubt but it was comments from all of us at TH that swayed his mind on a few issues.

Sorry you didn't have that opportunity, but there is no need to badmouth.
 
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Hey Pal, all the treehousers had a big part in helping Paul with the final design. I was one of the first group that demoed the machine last February in NC. Before you resort to name calling and acting like an Ass you should get your facts straight.

Paul designed it no doubt but it was comments from all of us at TH that swayed his mind on a few issues.

Sorry you didn't have that opportunity, but there is no need to badmouth.

What are you treehousers doing over here pal? Slumming?

I could care less about your input. Could care less about your forum. Could care less that you were one of the first people to "demo" it. Liked the product, bought it, started this thread to bring some more attention to it for the innovative person that invented it.

I took offense to a post made by Boston I thought was directed at me and reacted to it. If you don't like that, stick it where the sun don't shine.
 
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Hey after my heart attack I see why John doesn't want to breath exhaust fumes. I cant take the fumes anymore at all. I know that wouldn't be the norm as most tree climbers are healthy and haven't felt the affects YET. As far as a r&d standpoint why not make this thing use a battery like cordless drill or grease gun. Charge it at night at the shop and it should be lighter in weight. I'm not trying to make a big deal of this just saying is it an option to develope. The other concern I have is some moron using this as a winch. Yeah I know it's probably disclosed not to use it that way but the fools who used to work for me, no doubt (lets see what it can pull). Again I am not knocking this tool, seems like a great thing. Just throwing things out for people to think about.
 
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So back to the topic at hand.

Wraptor talk. Sorry for the derail. Keep it coming I rode monday to install some outdoor lights.

1 hour to install and maintain 8 seperate lights in 4 trees. I would be willing to bet 4 trees couldn't be climbed in 1 hour let alone do the install and maintenance of the lights.
 
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motorised_motorized_rope_ascender has been available since 1997 (13 years).

Good to see USA finally catching up with the rest of the world, pretty hard to say you invented something when a product has been out there all that time. :monkey:

Little different animal, Wraptor doesn't require a belay. Paul never claimed to be the first. He made one affordable that is his first. As far as battery powered, I think it would be heavier and one more thing to think about grabbing in the shop. YOu are using chainsaws the fumes are there.

Another thing to think about is you are moving pretty fast so the fumes are not staying right in your face.
 
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There again talking out of your ass.
I own a wraptor bought and paid for. Plugging a product that helps my everyday life is something I chose to do.

For a product that has been out since 1997 to still cost 9600 bucks and Ropetek can produce it for 2500 bucks.
I could buy the a small stumper for 7 grand. And still ride to the top!
 

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Little different animal, Wraptor doesn't require a belay. Paul never claimed to be the first. He made one affordable that is his first. As far as battery powered, I think it would be heavier and one more thing to think about grabbing in the shop. YOu are using chainsaws the fumes are there.

Another thing to think about is you are moving pretty fast so the fumes are not staying right in your face.

Belay was to satisfy OHS cronies, I do not use a belay when I use the device.

No equipment we use requires a belay, but we use belays for safety. In climbing comps they back up the footlock with belay, same with speed climb.

You can back up with a myriad of other methods if you want to, however with the PME when you really scrutinize the design and potential failure issues with an engineering mind you'll soon realise that it's near impossible for a failure, even if the drive gear breaks or busts of the shaft!

For those who like to argue (many here that do), do you back up your carabiner when traversing the tree and only have 1 attachment point? Nope.

The guy in this pic still does treework and is well over 50, as you can see, no belay.

Also I believe this information answers TreeVets derogatory and ignorant remarks from another thread. :monkey:

Did the prof. let you get your fat ass up a tree and try it out? The only way you gonna get up a tree these days is with a pair of spikes on, and even then...... :cry:

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Well ok you have a 10k dollar ascender still.

Sorry Treevet, I bet you wish you had a Wraptor now!!
 
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