FATGUY
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So different saws use different geometry cutters? I'm intrigued, explain.
MS441 or 385xp?
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So different saws use different geometry cutters? I'm intrigued, explain.
dave k
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So HBRN you expect us to be suprised that a 385 with a "tuned" chain would beat a 441 with a "tuned chain" now there is a suprise, a saw with more CC's beats a saw with less CC's with a sharp chain !!! now I know where I have been going wrong all these years ! so I need to buy bigger saws to beat my smaller saws, now I see....
I know it's wrong to reply to your challenged post but the devil in me just can't help it, I have no hate for you, before you trot that one, out only sadness.
I know it's wrong to reply to your challenged post but the devil in me just can't help it, I have no hate for you, before you trot that one, out only sadness.
HILLBILLYREDNEC
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As as example ,if you have a saw that is used in softer woods and it is a 60 cc saw,you can tune the chain to get the most performance out of the saw. The way to tune a chain is by chaining rider height and changing the cutting tooth angle to be any were from 25 degrees to 35 degrees. Also can you tune a chain by sharpening the chain with no gullet for better chip severing.
HILLBILLYREDNEC
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Yes 80cc with a well tuned chain can beat a 70cc saw with a well tuned chain. Were talking about stock saw to stock saw,not custom built saws.
Guido Salvage
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Chain tuning was a new one on me too. After considerable research, I found the formula.
dave k
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HBRN who said anything about modded saws ? You stated that a stock 385 could beat a stock 441 with both saws having a sharp chain .... what do you not see ... a bigger saw beats a smaller saw ...I was only thanking you for that gem. Skoty wise up and stop posting rubbish.
I should remind folk to watch your vid in the commercial tree section " Hazard tree felling" If that is one of your "tuned" chains then ....that is if you have not deleted your post as you are prone to do when caught in a load of waffle ?
I should remind folk to watch your vid in the commercial tree section " Hazard tree felling" If that is one of your "tuned" chains then ....that is if you have not deleted your post as you are prone to do when caught in a load of waffle ?
Guido Salvage
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An 80cc saw should beat a 70cc saw, no matter whether you "tuned" the chain or not. Are you tuning in A or B flat?????
Guido Salvage
Supreme Saw Whoreder
What is "tuning" a chain? Do you do it by ear? Does the amount of oil on the bar change the pitch? What is a "rider" on a chain and how the hell does he stay on at 13,000 RPM? I know about serving chips (salsa goes well with them) but never have I severed a chip. Is that what I did to my leg before I got my chaps?
You have a plethora of information that never seems to have reached anyone else in the industry.
indiansprings
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HBRN should become a sponsor, hell, there are prolly thousands to be made in chain tuning as no one else here seems to know how it's done. :bang::bang:
I like my chains in H minor
BlackAdder
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An 80cc saw should beat a 70cc saw, no matter whether you "tuned" the chain or not. Are you tuning in A or B flat?????
Presumably it's C-Sharp. :tongue2:
HILLBILLYREDNEC
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This is the reason your post are worthless trash full of half truths and unfounded information:msp_thumbdn:
Guido Salvage
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HBRN,
You are very adept at attacking the people who question the "information" that you post, but never are you able to provide evidence or photographs to support your statements. People are growing weary of the dribble that you post here and most have correctly branded you as a wannabe cutter. The simple fact that people do not respond to the threads that you start should give you a clue you are being ignored.
While it is fun to ridicule your outlandish claims and statements, that is not why this forum was created. Do us all a favor and limit your posts to something that you actually know about and can substantiate for the group.
Got to go, time to "tune" the "riders" on my chain....
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oscar4883
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Wow. A saw with more displacement and horsepower is faster than a saw with less displacement and horsepower when running the same bar and chain? Who would have thunk it to be true. I actually have real time, not imaginary internet time, on both a 441 and a 385(2186 actually), and I concur with your findings. But then again I can really tune a chain. lol
I did watch that video and well......... its priceless!:msp_scared:
HILLBILLYREDNEC
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Scotty I agree with you here, I also "tune" my chains for the wood I'm cutting. I had to "noodle" some redwood last year with the 090 and a 5' bar and the saws kept clogging with noodles so I refiled the the cutters to around 10 degrees so the tooth with produce chips that would fall to the ground. Of course everyone knows that changing the rider (depth guage) height between softwoods and hardwoods will "tune" the saw to the job. And yes the gullet height makes a big difference in square ground chain.
Still Scotty if you tone down your confrontational posts you might make some headway here.
Like I always say, even a blind nut finds a squirrel now and then.
Guido Salvage
Supreme Saw Whoreder
Well if your such a expert post your video or put a cork in the hate mongering
Why would you ask someone to do something that you refuse to do? No one is "hate mongering", we are just calling a spade a spade.
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