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Sounds good Rope, good to hear ya'll are busy, not so much here. The car bussiness has been sucking for awhile, I used to enjoy working on them and making 50-60 hrs a week, now I do good to make 30.:cry: I'm going to wrap up a few things and reconsider another line of work while I'm stihl young.

Wish you were closer, I would like to give ya a hand for a weekend or two, maybe learn a few "tricks" from the ole fellers. Stay safe out there!:chainsaw:

You could go help Hommie clear cut Canada.......:) :)




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I like to give these guys a hard time but really could care less what brand they use, it's all in the name of fun.

hey, we can take it. u may remember i posted a poll about who can take the abuse and who couldnt... but it must have offended someone cos it got removed 24hrs later :D:D:D:D:D

last time i checked the poll, "i can take the abuse and give it back to ya" was winning at 96%

so as with most things in life, its the minority that spoils the fun for everyone else.
 
Sounds good Rope, good to hear ya'll are busy, not so much here. The car bussiness has been sucking for awhile, I used to enjoy working on them and making 50-60 hrs a week, now I do good to make 30.:cry: I'm going to wrap up a few things and reconsider another line of work while I'm stihl young.

Wish you were closer, I would like to give ya a hand for a weekend or two, maybe learn a few "tricks" from the ole fellers. Stay safe out there!:chainsaw:
Ya and you would learn Husky kicks:laugh:sorry to hear about the slow down.
Try to diversify is all I can say when your slow pick up another trade I have had to before. I would do it in a minute again if I had to but I have to earn good money to keep the lights on.
 
hey, we can take it. u may remember i posted a poll about who can take the abuse and who couldnt... but it must have offended someone cos it got removed 24hrs later :D:D:D:D:D

last time i checked the poll, "i can take the abuse and give it back to ya" was winning at 96%

so as with most things in life, its the minority that spoils the fun for everyone else.

I remember the thread, and voted(can take it) but wondered where it went, go to hear I was not losing my mind.:dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy:
 
LOL!!! OK now we are both morons...:clap:


Witness mark helps when making the rough adjustment, But it is stihl better for 87% of the population to have the screws on the right side...and you are the only one I know of that tunes a saw the way you do. No lesson needed from you on how to tune a two-stroke, as I have plenty of experience tuning two-strokes that cost in excess of $15,000. The real way to do it is by holding the saw at WOT and leaning the mixture to the two-four break, then back a slight amount. Do a search on this site and you will see the light.

The offset is in the Elastostart handle to even the force in the fingers. My E-start handles never move...you must not have enough preload in your rewind spring...limp as it were...BTW, please provide figures on the weight difference between the standard handle and the Elastostart handle since you claim it is a significant difference.

Are you up to 3 million trees yet?

I can assure you I understand physics...even have a college transcript to prove it. Your handle argument is flawed. A handle that is meant to be held in only one way might be oval or approach square (think Colt 1911 grip), but a handle that must be held in many positions must be more rounded, as the Stihl rear handle is shaped. No one needs more leverage on a handle than a weightlifter, hundreds of pounds in each hand. The grip area on a weight bar is round.

You started this thing digging yourself into a hole with a shovel...but now you are using a backhoe and it is getting bad. Good luck!!!

Happy sawing!!!:)

I missed this post Tzed 250 so lets get to it. Ok you have a college transcript man thats pretty impressive. I only have a grade 8 education so I must be really dumb.
_ I just got my 1st Husky a few weeks ago [372XP] after running Stihls for a living for over 26 years, Jonsereds 8 before that. The transition with the 372 was in my mind amazing , I really see the differences in ergonomics. This 372 is such a pleasure to use. Now when I started this debate on handle shape, I think the reason you are having a hard time with what I'm trying to say is that you don't fully understand that there is alot of wrist action in working the saw. When you watch a pro logger running a saw [ falling, limbing and topping etc] you will notice its all in the wrist action when he cuts . The handles are not there just to hold on to. When I was 16 yrs old training to be a faller, my well experienced skidder operator said " You cut like a girl". In time I put on weight and got alot stronger, my arms in time became like Popeyes [ripped fat forearms]. Now I was well into the wrist action. The rear handle has to share the work with the top handle. You don't just hold the rear handle in many positions[ as you think the reason Stihls rear handle is round]. You twist the the rear handle into a work position for the bar & chain to do its work with your right wrist in tandem with your left wrist on the top handle. The Husky's approach square rear handle has a better grip for leverage in the twisting of the wrist action [less tiring and more productive and good balance with the top handle]. The Stihl's thin round rear handle doesn't offer the same advantage. Pro saws set the standard for saw research & development.With my new 372 cutting is so much different from running my 044. Don't refer to a Colt pistol grip or a weight lifters bar, the barbell is meant only to go straight up and down with push and pull pressure, the only leverage in weight lifting is muscle leverage.
_Am I up to 3 million trees yet? No not in my lifetime, I finished piecework logging as a faller years ago. You're not calling me a liar now are you BOY?!?!
_Your theory on the Elastostarts offset evens the force on the fingers fails. Try a tug o war with a friend holding a grip with the rope between your 4 fingers and then a grip with the rope between your index & middle finger. The 1st grip between the 4 fingers offers way more strength and equal of force on the fingers. Your handle does too spin.
_87% of population [did you make that up?] $15,000 two stroke did it have a bar & chain on it? So your telling me to set a saws carb the right way is to be hunched over it holding it with one hand while its wide open throttle on the ground and tweaking the screws with your free right hand. I say be safe and hold the saw with both hands at WOT, let go of the throttle and then make micro adjustments with your free right hand while you left hand holds the top handle of the idling saw. Go WOT again until the top rpm is at the right break tone,from idle to the top you are also checking your low setting too. Now years ago I knew a young man who was training on the saw with his dad in our logging operation. He too like you was setting his saws carb on the ground. WOT one handed hunched over the saw. The tip of the bar contacted the end of a log. Severe kickback to his face. 30 years later I still can't get rid of the sight of that young kid staggering around in circles with his one cheek hanging off his face like a pigs ear, teeth knocked out and all! Now Tzed 250 wouldn't it be something if you got a nasty kickback too? You and your boyfriend The Champ can admire each others scars while you're bending and .....
 
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I got no clue who Funky is but if I were Husky I'd be sending a hit man after him. He said they're having a 50% failure rate with Husky. If thats true that's a boat sinking fast. I'm no big fan of Husky though I do like my 346xp I don't buy that 50% failure rate for a second..

That 50% smells Troll at a long distance, and also tells me that he is not Stan.......
 
Well here I am over 1300 posts later. Since I first posted I bought the 372 and have 5 cords cut with it.

Here I'll say it, "I'd rather push my dead 372 back and forth like a hand saw, than use a Stihl".

Me thinks y'all need to get out there and cut because your cyber piles of wood won't heat the house !!!!!:popcorn:

Great!!!

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
 
_Am I up to 3 million trees yet? No not in my lifetime, I finished piecework logging as a faller years ago. You're not calling me a liar now are you BOY?!?!...

Still claiming you've cut 2 million trees? You're not only a liar but a damn poor one at that. Give us a break and quit insulting our intelligence, okay?

Oh, and if you see a BOY, you just knock him down, okay?
 
I say be safe and hold the saw with both hands at WOT, let go of the throttle and then make micro adjustments with your free right hand while you left hand holds the top handle of the idling saw. ....

And what if ya have a Husky ? kinda difficult to use the free right hand when the adjustment screws are on the left..., now wait, we can switch hands of course... sorry, being right handed really sucks ...:hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:
 
I missed this post Tzed 250 so lets get to it. Ok you have a college transcript man thats pretty impressive. I only have a grade 8 education so I must be really dumb.
_ I just got my 1st Husky a few weeks ago [372XP] after running Stihls for a living for over 26 years, Jonsereds 8 before that. The transition with the 372 was in my mind amazing , I really see the differences in ergonomics. This 372 is such a pleasure to use. Now when I started this debate on handle shape, I think the reason you are having a hard time with what I'm trying to say is that you don't fully understand that there is alot of wrist action in working the saw. When you watch a pro logger running a saw [ falling, limbing and topping etc] you will notice its all in the wrist action when he cuts . The handles are not there just to hold on to. When I was 16 yrs old training to be a faller, my well experienced skidder operator said " You cut like a girl". In time I put on weight and got alot stronger, my arms in time became like Popeyes [ripped fat forearms]. Now I was well into the wrist action. The rear handle has to share the work with the top handle. You don't just hold the rear handle in many positions[ as you think the reason Stihls rear handle is round]. You twist the the rear handle into a work position for the bar & chain to do its work with your right wrist in tandem with your left wrist on the top handle. The Husky's approach square rear handle has a better grip for leverage in the twisting of the wrist action [less tiring and more productive and good balance with the top handle]. The Stihl's thin round rear handle doesn't offer the same advantage. Pro saws set the standard for saw research & development.With my new 372 cutting is so much different from running my 044. Don't refer to a Colt pistol grip or a weight lifters bar, the barbell is meant only to go straight up and down with push and pull pressure, the only leverage in weight lifting is muscle leverage.
_Am I up to 3 million trees yet? No not in my lifetime, I finished piecework logging as a faller years ago. You're not calling me a liar now are you BOY?!?!
_Your theory on the Elastostarts offset evens the force on the fingers fails. Try a tug o war with a friend holding a grip with the rope between your 4 fingers and then a grip with the rope between your index & middle finger. The 1st grip between the 4 fingers offers way more strength and equal of force on the fingers. Your handle does too spin.
_87% of population [did you make that up?] $15,000 two stroke did it have a bar & chain on it? So your telling me to set a saws carb the right way is to be hunched over it holding it with one hand while its wide open throttle on the ground and tweaking the screws with your free right hand. I say be safe and hold the saw with both hands at WOT, let go of the throttle and then make micro adjustments with your free right hand while you left hand holds the top handle of the idling saw. Go WOT again until the top rpm is at the right break tone,from idle to the top you are also checking your low setting too. Now years ago I knew a young man who was training on the saw with his dad in our logging operation. He too like you was setting his saws carb on the ground. WOT one handed hunched over the saw. The tip of the bar contacted the end of a log. Severe kickback to his face. 30 years later I still can't get rid of the sight of that young kid staggering around in circles with his one cheek hanging off his face like a pigs ear, teeth knocked out and all! Now Tzed 250 wouldn't it be something if you got a nasty kickback too? You and your boyfriend The Champ can admire each others scars while you're bending and .....


If you think you are dumb then help yourself...




You made a remark about me cutting some "firewood on the side" a while back, and that is what I do. What you don't know is that I owned and operated my own tree service for 5 years. You won't be schooling me on how to run a saw. If you like your square handle, then fine. The fact reamins that the handle has to take many positions in your right hand, and for this round is better.

I also have formal education in the use of a chainsaw, certificates to prove that too.

You see the people above this post blowing you up? You are making a fool of yourself, and now it seems that instead of digging yourself into a hole with a backhoe you have graduated to an excavator. If you don't stop soon you will be using a dragline.

Who said anything about running the saw on the ground while tuning??? You definately need to get a grip on reality. I set the saw on a stump or log with the bar near nothing.

A two-stroke engine is a two-stroke engine. The crankshaft does not have feelings and it doesn't care what it is connected to.

And now let us get down to it. You made the boyfriend remark in another reply to someone else, and I let it slide, but now you've directed it to me.
It is a standard tactic when you are loosing an argument to divert attention from the real issues. You have now done this. Sorry you must stoop to that level. You are weak, and it shows. It would be best for you to stop now before you really make a fool of yourself. Your credibility is shot. Give it up.

Good day.
 
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Good day to you TZ !! I really admire your patience with this guy ...:cheers:

Well there you have it stihl heads are patient and don't care if they
have to clean air filters all day. I am patient in deer season but when
it comes to getting my work done I expect performance and I get that
from Husky. What a husky man lacks in patience he makes up with
thick skin and that is something the stihl crowd lacks:laugh: Take
that fat bottom chick saw and work it like I work and it will go
boom soon they get their patience from the rubix cube caps
and choke bs switch. Anyway bout day light time to hit it
hard daylight to dark five days and have not even looked at my
filter and cutting more in ten minutes than most do in two hours.
Daylights wasting , time to put the bar into wood you should
try that sometime stihl head :hmm3grin2orange: Time to warm
the bucket just starting to lighten up ohhhhhhhhhh the joys
of working at least I can count on my saws to perform!
 

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